Maximian looks like a tetrarch

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  1. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    RIC VI, Londinium, No.6b, Maximian Herculius, Augustus of the West:
    CT (Cloke & Toone), No. 2.01.007 (5), c. AD 296-303, Rarity: C

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    IMP C MAXIMIANVS PF AVG ................. GENIO POPV -- LI ROMANI

    Laureate, cuirassed, bust.
    10.1 gm.
     
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Indeed !

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    Maximianus, Follis Antioch mint, 3rd officina, AD 298
    IMP C MA MAXIMIANS P F AVG, Laureate bust of Maximianus right
    GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, ANT at exergue, two stars, cressent and Γ in field
    10.78 gr
    Ref : Cohen #184, RCV # 13273 (80), RIC VI # 50b


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    Maximianus, Follis Aquilea mint, 1st officina, AD 301
    IMP MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, Laureate head of Maximianus right
    SACRA MONET AVGG ET CAESS NOSTR, Moneta standing left, holding cornucopia and scales. AQP at exergue, V in right field
    10.35 gr
    Ref :RCV # 13300 (100), Cohen #504, RIC VI # 29b

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  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    jamesicus, your follis looks like it came from the same dies as the Severus Alexander specimen, what do you think?
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It is the same coin. Jamesicus consigned various coins to Sev. They will appear in the inaugural AMCC auction on December 1st.

    https://www.amcoinscanada.com/
     
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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    @Al Kowsky, I think it's one and the same coin, SA got it from Jamesicus

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  7. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Cucumbor, the reverse on your Aquileia specimen is needle sharp :jawdrop:.
     
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  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The Jamesicus photo looks much sharper....
     
  9. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Yes, that is correct TIF - and for Al Kowsky & Q - I hadn’t noticed it in Sev’s post when I posted my pic.
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Different lighting; excellent coin and its details are nicely but differently displayed in both.
     
  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    I found another Maximian follis worthy of posting, see photo below. This one was acquired at auction over 10 years ago. It's from the Ticinum Mint, c. 294-295, RIC 023b, 10.53 gm, & as close to mint state as you could expect to find.
    Maximian, Ticinum, 294-295 CE.jpg
     
  12. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Wonderful coin Al! The best Maximian nose I have ever seen!
     
  13. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    i dont see war signs on the coin good story for me/ you dont see year sign s to on these coin to / example as cos?
     
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  14. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    3976437.m.jpg this is a war coin/
     
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  15. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    :)
     
  16. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    ro1974, this is a handsome & extremely rare coin! Is it Galerius or Maximinus II Daia II?
     
  17. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    i can beter read the history agian :)tetrarchy is not war periode
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2018
  18. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    It is Galerius - Maximian was never a Caesar (Nob Caes in obverse inscription).
     
  19. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    the term "tetrarchy" (from the Greek: τετραρχία, tetrarchia, "leadership of four [people]")[a] describes any form of government where power is divided among four individuals, but in modern usage usually refers to the system instituted by Roman Emperor Diocletian in 293, marking the end of the Crisis of the Third Century and the recovery of the Roman Empire. This tetrarchy lasted until c. 313, when mutually destructive conflict eliminated most of the claimants to power, leaving Constantine in control of the western half of the empire, and Licinius in control of the eastern half.
     
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  20. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    indeed maxianus Cob Caes/ why those he use maxiamus on his coin/ iff he is galerius
     
  21. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Caution should be exercised when attributing folles of Galerius Maximian (Caius Galerius Valerius Maximianus) & Maximian Herculius (Marcus Aurelius Valerius Maximianus) due to the similarity of their titulature. Galerius Maximian was both Caesar and Augustus during this time period whereas Maximian Herculius was always only Augustus. Therefor coins bearing the titulature MAXIMIANVS plus NOBIL CAES, NOB CAES, NOBIL C, etc., can only be those of Galerius Maximian. There is a special problem with Galerius as Augustus coins: The titulature is mostly exactly the same as that of Maximian Herculius and frequently the only way to differentiate between the two is by the portraiture on the coin obverse.
     
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