PCGS forum deletes member accounts

I think many that would move or spend a lot more time here, are already members here ; some under other usernames or may only occasionally visit. We assimilated the large exodus of Ancient coin members and they have been excellent members for the most part, like changing high schools when you are young. I am happy for the presence of experts of many areas and their contributions to the learning that occurs.

 

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This sounds vaguely familiar. A sign of the times, perhaps?

 

If Roger's posts are not restored, then it is EXACTLY like burning books in the context of removing historical information from those who want to read it.

 

PCGS has been going through many changes this year, many of the long time staff have left: https://coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/pcgs-founder-david-hall-out-at-collectors-universe/

I would think that they would be particularly sensitive to these changes at PCGS, and collectors should try to be sensitive to that, though all the reasons were not discussed. And reports I have seen were that they were tightening up a lot. One major poster there told me that he stopped submissions after a previously graded AU58 Bust 50c came back from them as "xf details, cleaned". Reports have been they are very tight, and so their submissions have been fast.

 

No it's not, not even remotely close. I would strongly suggest doing some research on the burning of books and the intentions before making comparisons to banning someone from a company forum

 

I've held back coins from them this year because of it, others have said the same. Whoever convinced them it was a good idea to go ultra conservative cost them buisness. Ultra conservative is fine at high end market but that's about it

 

Let's just say I have done my homework. Have you?

For anyone who reads Roger Burdette's PCGS posts, they represent a searchable database of US Mint manuscripts (in the public domain) and other data regarding virtually all aspects of the US Mint, a library of information. For some, they don't use the information and don't care. For others, it is a critical loss of historical data. The mechanics are entirely different than burning books. The effect of the loss of information is entirely the same as burning books.

 

I’m just curious, since I don’t participate. Is NGC like this with their forum?

 

As I said before nothing from the internet is permanently deleted, you can still pull it all up if you want to do the homework to figure out how.

So let's calm down with the cries of intellectual censorship, his source material all still exists that anyone can go look up. Actually book burning would be burning the documents as well........

 

The NGC forum has very little action. There's several things still on the first page that haven't had a post in about two weeks.

 

Thanks!

 

I agre; PCGS benefits from one of the best formats, must be that California silicon valley proximity or spending resources that others like NGC don't want to. Not sure why.

 

The software at NGC is almost new but it took a while to get the site back up and running.

 

IF someone has the time they can use the Wayback machine to rescue the lost posts. The last full download was for Oct 4, 2018...so most could be copied and be given to him to repost if he wanted to. I am sorry, I do not have the time. Jim

https://web.archive.org/web/20181005022918/https://forums.collectors.com/categories/u-s-coin-forum

 

I tried using archive.org a few years back to pull some posts from another forum that got unplugged with no warning -- ALL its content, spanning a decade or more, gone. Unfortunately, archive.org didn't go deep enough into the site to archive thread contents.

I checked one of the threads from the link above. The first page of thread content was available, but when I tried to go to the last page of the thread, I got a message that it wasn't archived, but it was still available on the Web -- as it appears today, with banned users' content removed, presumably.

 

A private institution banning speaking (posting) by an individual is very different than a public institution, like a university from doing so. But it can be a slippery slope if it is done too loosely, and not cautiously.

 

Well, it’s called Sleepy Hollow for a reason.

 

Are you talking about TCCS?

 

No, there was a Macintosh news/deals site called DealMac, and it had a forum called DealChat. It was very much a community; I got a lot of value out of it, and I like to think I contributed a good bit of value as well. But it's all gone now. (Of course, so are nearly all the machines and programs for which I was offering helpful hints, so maybe it doesn't matter...)

 

Shades of Facebook, Twitter, and other sites that ban/delete based on agendas or specific political leanings, perhaps?