Is this manipulating?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pavlos, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    I saw this Pyrrhos litra some time ago for sale, I liked it but I had no hurry buying it and I waited for next time.

    This is the coin:
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    Now I was browsing through some auctions on biddr and I noticed that the same coin is put on auction (by another auction house) but the color completely changed:

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    What happened with the coin and why did they do this? I liked it before much more. Details are lost as well, before the pupil in the eye was visible, and now after it is pretty much gone. Did they treat it with chemicals to remove the patina or add artificial patina?

    What do you guys think about this?
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Nothing altered. Just photographed under different conditions.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    And cleaned, I think. There are areas which had thick patina (chin and neck, for instance) in which that thick layer is now missing or thinned.
     
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  5. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    Looks like they acid-dipped it and then applied an artificial patina using something like the "Swellegant" line of products used by unscrupulous dealers of fakes and altered items. Gross! :vomit:
     
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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Both of these were my first thoughts
     
  7. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    It does look like it is definitely cleaned, the thick patina atleast.
     
  8. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    If by cleaned you mean completely stripped of the nice Carbonate patina by soaking in acid, then yes. It would have come out shiny so they then applied chemical darkening agents and possibly a rub of RenWax. I see it all the time in the realm of artifacts.
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The color may just be a difference in photography, but what concerns me more is that some of the features on the second pic are much sharper than the first, particularly Herakles' hair. The second image looks like a tooled coin to me, but I can't make a call from a pic - I would have to look at it in hand from several angles.
     
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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Seems like it was altered, unfortunately.
     
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