Why the americans in ebay ...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by avi400, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. avi400

    avi400 Senior Member

    send coins only to the USA and Canada.

    sometimes they send to all the world...

    I don't know why the situation like that.

    I like american coins, and for me ut is

    difficult to buy.

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i dont normaly send to other countries becuase of 2 things - i dont like the hassel of all the extra forms. it might not be all thatbad, but i never know what i need to do and the post office usually gets angry if you ask. Second, i dont like taking chances. As a seller, Ebay and Paypal usually work for the buyers side if there is a hassel. Alot of fraud happens over seas from the US. I just dont want to gamble on losing my item and the money in the event of fraud. i understand fraud can happen anywhere, but my decision is 2 fold.

    that said, if a buyer emails me asking about a destination i dont list, i might ship to them. if they go through all the effort to email me, alot of time (not always) i figure they wont try to screw me. I also look feedback if they email as well.
     
  4. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    As you wrote - some sellers will ship only to buyers in their own country, others ship worldwide, and others may have a list of destinations that they ship or not ship to. Nothing wrong with that, whether on eBay or elsewhere. The only problem is that with eBay I have not found a filter for those cases - a search criterion such as "only display auctions/offers if the seller delivers to my country". Would be a time saver. Well, I don't use eBay a lot anyway, so I cannot complain. ;)

    Christian
     
  5. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    Sometimes the shipping costs more. And actually, its not a great deal for the Buyer to pay so much for all that additional shipping,.
    But as others have mentioned, its really that you cant get insurance in other countries, and there's a much higher possibility that the item does not arrive.
     
  6. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Also, I don't think you can track anything when you send them out of the US. Could be wrong, but that's one reason I think.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  7. jf7fsu

    jf7fsu Member

    The main issue is the Paypal Sellers guarantee. You cannot track packages overseas except by Fedex or UPS which are cost prohibitive.

    If you sell any item paid by Paypal, they make the seller track the package for confirmation and if it is more than $250 you must have signature confirmation. If not and the buyer disputes - you lose. That simple.

    I sold two Niobium Austrian coins to a Hong Kong buyer who actually mailed me cash by global express. I sent the coins global express and received a certificate of mailing and receipt. For weeks he claimed he did not receive the coins. I tracked it and all the USPS web site said was "Left country destination Hong Kong and the date it left. So I had my proof and the buyer claimed he did not receive it. I made the decision not to refund his money because I told him I do not sell outside the US and it would be at his own risk.

    So, I no longer sell outside the US, also because most post services are not as good as the USPS.
     
  8. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Oh well, several of those low quality postal services manage to provide Track & Trace International. At least to certain countries. :p

    Christian
     
  9. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I had a german seller tell me he doesnt ship to america...I tried to bid on a product on german ebay and was blocked, asked him why and he said he doesnt sell to america. Go figure...I even spoke to him in broken german. :)
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i sent some thignt o myself and it never arrived forget buyer and seller :( i lost over $400 :(
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I don't sell on Ebay or other sites, but my son does. He had a $200 ripoff that he is still trying to settle. Americans have been the victims of an enormous number of scams coming from outside the country. If foreigners want to do business here, the fraud has to stop first.
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Avi, I think you will find if you contact sellers you are seriously interested in buying from and explain your situation, many will ship to you....Mike
     
  13. jf7fsu

    jf7fsu Member

    The words "low quality" are yours not mine. They may manage to track and trace within the EU but it does not help ebay sellers in the USA. The USPS can track any package within the US between any state as well so what is your point?
     
  14. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    Hmmm.

    For me it's a total hassal to ship overseas as I have to go to a real post office as opposed to the sub-stations that we have here like the Hy-Vee Drug stores.

    But as someone else stated - if a foreign customer contacts me and asks how much it will be to send to Poland or Brazil, I'll follow though. So far, no problems. Just sent something to Brazil.

    As Americans, we gotta stop being claustrophobic - you'd be surprised how cheap it is to send something that weighs one pound to South America or the Middle of NoWhere!!!!
     
  15. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Very good point although it has changed since 9/11.

    Shipping to countries other than Canada can be a real pain these days and that is more time consuming than it used to be.

    I had a buyer email me from Taiwan before 9/11 and asked if he could bid having read my terms. I said sure as long as you can pay me in U.S. cash. Well, he did and I sold him a lot of stuff that he wanted. No bouncing checks, no paypal, no impossilble to cash money orders just good old U.S. currency.

    There is also a problem with the U.S. postal service, as many of us have found out. You have to declare what's in the package. Put down coins and it may be stolen by a postal employee. I declare my items as "computer related or photography" any more bu if it does legitimately get lost I'm out of the money paid and coins.

    It has become a smaller world but unless you're a big time dealer or company it's too risky for the small guy.
     
  16. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    it is simply a matter of time for me....I cannot track a package with a signature confirmation while printing my own postage from Paypal, I would have to go to the post office or fedex or something to ship.....to much driving and time.....
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's hard enough for some folks just trying to understand selling coins in the US.
    Other places add new problems.
     
  18. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    Same opinion as a lot of the others but the risk is usually is not worth the trouble........
     
  19. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Oh well, "not as good as the USPS" were your words, not mine. I just found it funny that you made that comment right after Phoenix wrote that the USPS does not offer tracking outside the US. :cool:

    By the way, Track & Trace does not have anything to do with the EU. It's a little weird - Deutsche Post, for example, offers it from Germany to places such as Canada and New Zealand but not to the Netherlands. Other postal services will have other limitations, but this does not have much to do with political or geographic neighbors ...

    And as I wrote before, it is up to every seller to offer coins, or anything else, to customers in certain countries only. Perfectly fine with me. And it is equally fine to avoid such vendors. I just wish it would be easier to filter them in the first place. May be technically difficult though.

    Christian
     
  20. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Next time tell me. I don't like bidding on behalf of others, but Buy-It-Now is OK. And I do have a shipping address that this seller should be comfortable with. ;)

    The problem with shipping coins from here, even within Germany, is that with Deutsche Post/DHL you have to send them as ValueMail (Wertsendung) if you want them to be insured. (Professional dealers usually have separate shipping insurances for that, but a small private eBay seller ...) Now when I use ValueMail, I need to find out whether that is possible with the postal service of the destination. Other postal or parcel services do not even ship coins. Now if I just mail a low value piece and/or gift, I will send it as a plain letter. If that gets lost, it's gone, but I don't have to deal with high postage or customs stickers ...

    Christian
     
  21. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I lived in England and the UK, and I would have to say that their postal services are not as good as the USPS - they are better!

    I don't fault the USPS because of the size of the US and the volume of mail involved, but many other postal services are far more reliable and faster to deliver. In the UK for example, you can buy a First Class letter stamp that will virtually guarantee delivery within the UK by the next day. In the US you would have to use Express Mail and pay a fortune.

    The problem is that most Americans and most Post Office clerks see overseas addresses as some unkown, perilous risk. That can be the case to some destinations, but not to most countries an eBayer would be selling to. The main obstacle is probably lack of universal insurance coverage, but for smaller items that should not be much of an issue.
     
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