what is this error called

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jon67, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    i have a coin with this type of error but not sure what its called

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    jon:
    It is called damaged.
    I believe that it was removed from a "lucky coin" holder (one of those "keep me and never go broke" metal discs).
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Out of collar strike / broadstrike?
     
  5. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    I agree with treashunt, encased cent. Notice the knob above "WE." (Likely where a split bezel joined.) Notice the "L" of Liberty has had the rim pushed into it.
     
  6. Rhubarb

    Rhubarb New Member

    That is what it is!

    Rhubarb
     
  7. Brad1975

    Brad1975 Member

    Looks like an "encased" cent to me.
     
  8. Rhubarb

    Rhubarb New Member


    Brad,

    What does the term "Encased" mean? Perhap's a explanation is in order.

    Rhubarb
     
  9. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    A cent has a metal, plastic or pressed paper "collar" crimped around it, usually with some kind of "good luck" legend. Here's an example presently on EBay:

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    When the collar is removed, the edge looks like the coin in the OP. Broadstrikes are very rarely really circular, as without a collar the metal spreads irregularly.
     
  10. Rhubarb

    Rhubarb New Member

    Now I know!

    Thank's

    Rhubarb
     
  11. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    I just realized the pic may not be of your coin, merely a coin like yours. There is an error that resembles the pic somewhat. The "railroad rim" caused by a partial collar/ partial broadstrike. On the error coin, one side will look normal, the other side is, well a broadstrike.
    see also http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=25014&highlight=railroad+rim
     
  12. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    you are correct this is not my coin.mine has this mark on the obverse about 3/4 around the edge, without the crimp at the 12 o:clock position and on the reverse, the edge is 1/3 like that mark. and the edge is concave as in the top and bottom stick out further i tried to get some pics of my coin sorry for the bad pics

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  13. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    I can't tell from the pix (too blurry) so you'll have to be the eyes. I did a search of cointalk and found http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=2279
    Post #10 (Mike Diamond) describes how to tell the difference between an encased cent and a railroad rim.

    Quoted:
    "These are not partial collar errors ("railroad rims"). These are encased cents (lucky token cents) that have been removed from the surrounding ring. These coins will show:

    1. An abnormally small diameter
    2. Warping of the surface (seen here)
    3. A concave edge, similar to the rim of a bicycle wheel without the tire (seen here).
    4. Often a horizontal or sloping shelf lateral to a false rim that's pushed inward.

    A true partial collar error will show:

    1. A diameter that's greater than normal next to one face.
    2. A "step" on the edge where you make the transition from the collar-confined edge to the unconfined edge."
     
  14. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    thank you that was very informative i think i have an ex encased cent i will throw it in the dented bin
     
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