TRIVIA: 2 diff coins - same reverse

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Clinker, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    You probably know what the reverse on the United StatesTrade Dollar looks like.

    Here's a look to jog your memory (courtesy of coinfacts.com):

    http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/trade_dollars/trade_dollars.html

    Now I want you to look at the reverse of the 20 cent piece (also, courtesy coinfacts.com)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/twenty_cents/twenty_cents.html

    Yes, it's the same design, except this reverse is missing

    1) the motto E PLURIBUS UNUM
    2) the silver fineness statement

    Now some of you may assume Bust Quarters have the same design, so I'll let you see for yourself.

    Draped Bust Quarters

    1796 variety

    http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_dollars/draped_bust_quarters/draped_bust_quarter_dollars.html

    1804-1807 variety

    http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_do...ter_dollars/1804_quarter_dollar_varieties.htm

    And what about the Capped Bust Quarters?

    Capped Bust Quarters

    Scroll on Reverse (1815 - 1828)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_do...ter_dollars/1815_quarter_dollar_varieties.htm

    No Scroll on Reverse (1831 - 1838)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_do...ter_dollars/1831_quarter_dollar_varieties.htm

    http://www.coinfacts.com/quarter_do...ter_dollars/1815_quarter_dollar_varieties.htm


    And lest you think Half Dollars or Dollars were struck with the same reverse design as the 20 cent and Trade Dollar, look at them:
    Flowing Hair Halves of 1794 and 1795

    http://www.coinfacts.com/half_dollars/flowing_hair_half_dollars/flowing_hair_half_dollars.html

    Draped Bust (small eagle of 1796 to 1807 (both Varieties

    http://www.coinfacts.com/half_dollars/draped_bust_half_dollars/draped_bust_half_dollars.html

    Capped Bust Halves 1807 - 1839 (3 Varieties)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/half_dollars/capped_bust_half_dollars/capped_bust_half_dollars.html

    Flowing Hair Silver Dollars of 1794 and 1795

    http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/flowing_hair_dollars/flowing_hair_silver_dollars.html


    Draped Bust Silver Dollars of 1795 to 1804 (Both Varieties) (scroll down to see both varieties)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/draped_bust_dollars/draped_bust_silver_dollars.html

    Hope you enjoyed this trivia...

    Clinker
     
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  3. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    What about the Barber and later Seated Liberty dimes? I believe they have the same reveres, too. Or do they not count because they're the same denomination? Oh well, great trivia!
     
  4. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I agree! :thumb: great post Clinker!
     
  5. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Clinker: Your ruining my ability to copy your posts. You used to detail the entire story but lately you are entering numerous Links to other places. Those may be useless in the near future so my copying your post would have little meaning in a few years. Still nice of you to keep us all informed.
     
  6. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Ardatirion

    You hit the nail on the head "two different denominations", although there are two different Commemorative U.S. coins with the same reverse.

    Clinker
     
  7. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Neat post. Thanks for the information.

    Take Care
    Ben
     
  8. rickyb

    rickyb With a name like Ricky...

  9. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Yep, the 20 cent coin certaintly had the same obverse as quarters of them time, but the eagle was slightly different (not different enough though to stop complaints of it being too similar to a quarter, which caused it to have the shortest run of any coin series, and of any denomination, in US history, as far as federally minted coins go.)

    For one, the eagle wasn't even facing the same way. And it was smaller, slightly, and had a plain edge as opposed to a reeded one...

    Still the 20 cent piece was regarded as useless, and not counting proofs, was only minted for 2 years, with most of the second year's production having been melted down before ever leaving the mints.

    Anything but the 1875-S is extremely rare. Few of the Carson City mintages ever saw the outside of the mint before getting melted down.
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Here's what's interesting about this thread - it shows how times have changed.

    We look back and see different denominations with the same design, and we're amazed - because these days different denominations have different designs.

    But it hasn't always been that way. In fact, varying designs are the exception, not the rule !

    For the majority of America's history, a single design was featured on multiple denominations. It was that way from the beginning.

    1793 - 1795 Flowing Hair was everything. While there was some variance amongst the copper, all silver of 1794 and 1795 sported identical design -
    from the lowly half dime all the way up to the silver dollar. All the gold showed identical Turban Capped Bust designs.

    Then the Draped Bust took the stage in 1796 - and again, all the coins from half cent all the way up to the dollar marched in step, while the gold coins mimicked each other.

    And so it went, through the Capped Bust era, the Seated Liberty era, and the Coronet Gold era. All coins of the same metal tended to have the same design.

    Yes, there were some exceptions - Silver Morgan dollars are unlike silver Barbers - but there were three identical Barber denominations !

    Only in the twentieth century did we consistently have a single design dedicated to a single denomination.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It may well be that he is trying to comply with the copyright laws Carl. I applaud him for that.
     
  12. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Daggarjon

    Thanks for your comment...

    Clinker
     
  13. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Bonedigger

    Thanks, Ben and...."you're welcome..."

    Clinker
     
  14. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    Interesting post, Clinker. I've always said you could learn a lot here.

    Bruce
     
  15. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Just Carl

    I'll try to do a few "mostly Text" trivia posts in the near future...

    Clinker
     
  16. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    rickyb

    Thanks for reading and commenting...

    Clinker
     
  17. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    mralexanderb

    Thanks for the "leg up" Bruce!

    Clinker
     
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