1909 V.D.B Proof?

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  1. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Hi Coin talk,
    Just found this looking though my wheat cents and found this. Do you think that it is proof?

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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Looks like it's been lacquered. Some kind of coating on it.
     
  4. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Yeah I think it is too worn to have that much luster
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    What makes you think that it is? The shine?

    It doesn't have squared rims. I'm no early-Lincoln-proof expert, but even I'm confident that this one is a "no".
     
  6. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Definitely not a matte proof. Compare with one of mine
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    Note the rims. The strike of MPLs are different than any other business strike. The surfaces are free from marks. Your coin appears to have something on it.
     
  7. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    It is a lot different when I hold it in my hands, it might just be that I got low grade pictures. The surface is real smooth.
     
  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it has been lacquered, can soaking it in acetone for a week do anything?
     
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  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Sure..........but I wouldn't soak it for a week. And I'd change the baths quite often........
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I figured that real shellac is organic, but it may take some time, to get it off.
    Lather, rinse, repeat. It's too nice a coin, if this can be conserved inexpensively.
     
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  11. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Not a chance. All VDB proofs have the dot between the D and B in the center. Yours is nearer to the D. We won't even mention the rounded rims on your coin.
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Rubbing alcohol will remove the old organic 'lac bug lacquer, I would try a touch on a q-tip on the edge and if it softens and adheres to cotton fibers, you can soak it entirely in alcohol. If not it is synthetic and needs lacquer thinner ( mostly toluene from) hardware store,try on a q-tip and if it still doesn't come off , it is very commercial epoxy and it is staying until wear removes it. IMO, Jim
     
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  13. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    No square rims - inside and out. Ergo, not a proof.
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The surface on a matte proof ISN'T real smooth, it's textured. (Of course to a lesser extent the surfaces on a MS 1909 Lincoln are textured too. The coin wasn't designed to have smooth fields.)
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I forget the name but there is a small brown bottle with a liquid designed for Cents. You gently use your fingers and lightly rub the cent then pat dry. It leaves a sheen to protect the cent. No lasting residue, just a shine. It was very popular years ago but not so much today. I suspect yours has been treated as such.
     
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  16. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Blue Ribbon.
     
  17. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    Many real old collectors back then, did coat some of their holdings with lacquer.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The brown bottle was CARE, Blue Ribbon (at least my bottles) are in clear glass.
     
  19. robec

    robec Junior Member

    You're right. I haven't used Blue Ribbon in several years. I guess the brown I remember was the liquid not the bottle. I don't know about care.

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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    CARE was a similar product that came in a brown glass bottle. It was a little "thicker" than blue ribbon and many EACers liked it better (I only have a little left) But it has been out of production for a LONG time now. every now and then a bottle comes on the market. Tends to go for $200 or more a bottle. (There is another product call Coin CARE on the market, NOT the same thing.) I don't believe Blue Ribbon is manufactured anymore either. It has been replaced by a product called C.C.C. Classic Coin Conditioner. I've seen Blue Ribbon as high as $35 a bottle. (I'm sitting on six bottles or that, Bought them years ago when it was discontinued the first time.)
     
  21. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Coin does not hurt a coin, does it?
     
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