Guess the Grade 1941-S Walking Liberty Half

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes the light source is different and it's semi-PL. If you tilt the coin, you can see some die polish lines on the obverse.
     
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Wow. Why a star? Why that grade? I just don't see it. But congrats!
     
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    See above :) (PL qualities)
    And I bought it as-is (I didn't send it in). One can argue that it might only be a 63, but it's not lower than that (and definitely not an AU).
     
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  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Which side is supposedly PL? I don't see that at all from the photos provided.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The obverse (and semi-PL is what I said)
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Grading from images is always fun.
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I guess it must sing in-hand. But it sure doesn't in the pics. No offense.
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Can you post the semi PL surfaces in a photo, Cause I am thinking that it has already had it's best day in the grading room.:wideyed:
     
  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I was thinking au58 (high point rub?) or ms63-64. As for the star, I thought they used that for toned coins. Guess not.
     
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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    From ngc website. And no. I wouldn't have graded it AU if I had seen these.
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Wow!:wideyed: That changes the ball game.
     
  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I mean, how are we supposed to grade this??? :oops::D:facepalm:
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  14. ddddd

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  15. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I would have been the first!
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Semi PL doesn't qualify for a star designation. One side needs to qualify as prooflike. Based on the NGC images, I'm guessing it is the reverse.
     
  17. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    A star simply means it has outstanding eye appeal. This is very subjective and can range from nice toning, single sided PL, booming luster on a date/mm not normally known for booming luster. For this one, I believe it was awarded for the semi-PL luster and great strike which is not common on this date/mm.

    This is one gorgeous looking Walker and I would be proud to own it. As I stated above earlier, lighting has everything to do with how the image looks. I could read this one and knew the luster was there. I did not however, have any idea it was as icy looking as the NGC photo's show.

    The OP images appear to be using very flat and diffused lights, possibly fluorescent lights? A less diffuse point source light would really make that luster dance. But it would be a tough dance to capture as you will have quite a bit of specular highlights that will show up as hot spots.

    Edited to add: This is my 5000th post, I can't believe it came so fast. :)
     
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  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I wonder if @physics-fan3.14 has a PL Walker in his stash?? What do you think of the OP coin? How about the grade??
    Enquiring minds would like to knowo_O
     
  19. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Since you have to resubmit your Walkers, I take the chance to send you some coins of my own, especially older US Silver to share the costs of grading with you;):angelic:
     
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  20. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    The OP images and NGC images are quite different. From the OP images I'd have guessed MS-63, and from the NGC images, 64 (no, not trying to pull an Ed Wood stunt here. :p )
     
  21. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I can see why the OP images were taken with (overly?) diffused lights. A coin with this much lustre and design detail can be a real bear to accurately image without compromising some aspect of the coin itself. The NGC images have a ton of hot spots even with the low angle of what appears to be non-diffused lighting. Some where in between the two sets of images is the sweet spot for this coin.
    Maybe send it to Justin? ;)
     
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