Where do dealers get their coins??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by kleraudio, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. kleraudio

    kleraudio Senior Member

    Besides buying from walk in customers how do dealers acquire their coins for resale? And how do they get them cheaper than they sell them?

    Im new at this whole hobby but this question has been bugging me.

    Thanks in advance!

    Jim
     
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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Other dealers, buying estate coin collections, and coin shows. At least that is some of the places where my local coin shop gets coins - or so they told me.
     
  4. stitch45457

    stitch45457 Junior Member

  5. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    Purchases from walk-in customers, buying from auctions, buying entire collections and estates, and very often from other dealers at shows.
     
  6. kleraudio

    kleraudio Senior Member

    Thanks for all the quick replies guys! So are they buying from other dealers based off of the "greysheet"??

    And why would one dealer sell a coin to another dealer at greysheet price when they can sell it to a customers for retail??

    Thanks again guys for all the help, I want to understand this whole dealer process once and for all! :)

    Jim
     
  7. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    If you had a large volume of coins to sell and needed to sell them reasonably quickly, thus were more concerned about profit per time than profit per coin.

    Concentrating on profit per time rather than profit per item is why Wal-Mart is so successful of a retailer.
     
  8. kleraudio

    kleraudio Senior Member

    Im not sure I understand Troodon, "Profit per time"?? Can you elaborate...

    Are you saying they are making a small amount on each individual item (coin), but selling many times per day/week/year, etc.... that they are making a profit?

    They make their money off quantity is what your basically saying right? (Coin dealers, and even Wal mart as in your example)

    Thanks again for the help!

    Jim
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes they buy them based on the Grey Sheet, but it may well be above or below what you find in the Grey Sheet. Most collectors don't realize it, but the majority of all coins out there being bought and sold are just moving from one dealer to another. Ask coin dealer's, they'll you. About 75% - 80% of their business is buying or selling to another dealer.

    Sure, eventually the coins will find their way into the hands of a collector. But that collector turns around and sells them yet another dealer - or the same one. Often in a short period of time. Individual coins get bought and sold dozens of times.
     
  10. stitch45457

    stitch45457 Junior Member

    a candy bar say cost 50 cents
    say you could sell a thousand candy bars for 1 dollar a piece in a month =1000$ (500profit) year profit =6000
    say you could sell a thousand candy bars for 2 dollars but it takes 4 months= 2000 (profit 1500) year profit= 4500
     
  11. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

  12. kleraudio

    kleraudio Senior Member

    Man, thanks for the info everyone!

    So how would a small time guy like me get involved in buying and selling coins? How would I take the first step?

    Im not looking to make alot of money here, just trying to get more involved in the hobby and I like the trading aspect of it all!

    Thanks!

    Jim
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Go get a part time job at a coin shop first. The coin business isn't what most folks think it is. Having the job will show you that. After a year or so and if you still want to do it - you'll know what to do by then. But just don't go out and try and it on your own - unless you need to lose a lot of weight ;)
     
  14. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Step One. Decide what you want to collect.

    Step Two. Read about them.

    Step Three. Ask a lot of questons before buying.

    Step Four. ENJOY!

    Then you can get on to the other stuff.
     
  15. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Not on my own but....Lose alot of weight .... In the 2 years I have been dealing/working for a dealer I have gained 15 lbs. !:yawn:

    In addition to having a pregnant wife & then a son did add to it Im sure. All of that good wholesome family time & simpathy weight ... At least thats my excuse;)
     
  16. kleraudio

    kleraudio Senior Member

    Clembo, GDJMSP, thanks for the advice, I will definitely take it to heart!

    I still have much reading to do! I just thought it would be fun to buy and sell coins while collecting for myself at the same time, seems like a really good way to be more involved in this new found hobby of mine!

    Jim

    PS. Clembo, on deciding what I want to collect, it seems so hard to choose! I like em all! Im drawn to the Morgans as Im sure EVERYONE is, but theyre fairly common from what Ive been reading.

    How did you guys decide on what you wanted to collect??

    Jim
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Ahhhh but Bud, if you were on your own and just starting out without a strong background behind you - you'd starve to death :D
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    When a coin jumps up and slaps you in the face and you say to yourself - I just HAVE to buy that !! You'll know what to collect ;)
     
  19. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Most Morgans are fairly common if I can even say that while others run well into the thousands depending on condition.

    Not a Morgan man myself but I own a few.

    It REALLY is a personal decision. I like odd denominations. I'm a Two Cent Junkie but working (kind of) on Three Cent Nickel, Three Cent Silver and Twenty Cent pieces. If I ever get those where I want I'll probably delve further into Half Cent pieces.

    Other collect only moderns, or world, or ancients or a plethora of other types. How I got into odd denominations is a long story.


    Start hitting shops or shows just to look. Whatever strikes your fancy is a good place to start.
     
  20. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    You should look into becoming a vest-pocket dealer. Get want lists from clients and find the coins they want at coin shows and coin shops. You won't have the overhead of a B&M store. If you only buy coins for which you already have a buyer you should be able to turn a quick profit and you won't have the expense of carrying an inventory.
     
  21. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    Be careful with these large lots.....Dan is tellin you right
    It is very common to " adjust " the lot to the price realized AFTER the auction ends, you almost never get any more value than you bid
     
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