Help with this Flying Eagle cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dougmeister, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Something bothers me about the surfaces of this coin, but I can't put my fingers on it.

    (Literally... I don't have the coin in hand ;-)

    Can someone tell me what caused this rough, scaly texture on both the fields *and* devices? I don't think it's been cleaned...?

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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Purely a guess, but would this be considered the "orange peel effect" of a deteriorated die?
     
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  4. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Whizzed possibly?
     
  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    My guess would be either it's the coin's surfaces, or it's a bad lighting, bad camera JPEG compression, or maybe they over sharpened the images in processing, which can lead to grainy fields.

    I'm thinking most likely it's the camera seeing the light reflecting off the flow lines of the luster and then pixellating it to death.
     
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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I’d bet that it is a nice, original coin struck from worn-out dies.
     
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  8. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    My first thought was heavily whizzed. A whizzed coin often gets that stippled appearance in the fields.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Could also be a light acid etching from a cleaning attempt.
     
  11. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    As I understand it a whizzed coin will look doubled in certain areas.
    The doubling is a function of the high speed rotation of the wheel doing the polishing.
    It actually melts the coin's surface where it was applied and pushes that melt off the edge of a feature and deposits where the feature meets the field it's on.

    With this coin I like the "orange peel" possibility better.

    But I like the counterfeit possibility best.
     
  12. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thanks, everyone.

    Does anyone else think that @kanga might be right with the Counterfeit Hypothesis?
     
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    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It's genuine IMO. Look at the rim cuds on both sides. Ya don't see those on fakes.
     
  15. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the input. I appreciate it!

    What do you think could be responsible for the surfaces then? Any ideas?
     
  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Just cleaned.
     
  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

  18. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    What exactly makes you say that it's been cleaned?
     
  19. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The surfaces look unnatural.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    You do if they used a coin that had the cuds as the model for their fake dies. But in this case I believe it is just a case of cleaning not counterfeiting.
     
  21. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    That one looks very suspicious at first glance, and before reading comments...I'm not a pro on these cents...just a gut feeling about it.
     
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