Error Experts, Please Help; Is this a blank or a planchet?

ANACS lists this as a type 1 planchet, for which there is no such thing.

Did they mean type 1 blank? If so, why do i think i see a rim on the reverse at the top?

But if they meant type 2 planchet, why would they put that on the label as 99.9% of coins are struck on planchets?

What do you guys think? Is this struck on a blank? I don't think it is.

 

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I think that I see an upset rim. But kind of wondering if it is only partial. Being a coin struck out of the collar, makes it hard to tell.

 

That's an old ANACS slab.. They made mistakes on their labels at that time.

If it is Broadstruck and that side of the Blank was struck then it would of forced the edge upwards. Just my thinking.

 

Blanks don't have a rim added; planchets do.

 

If that side of the blank was struck? I don't understand what you mean.

I have many coins struck on blanks, and many of them are broadatrikes. You can always tell very clearly that rims are missing.

 

Blanks do not have an upraised rim.
When it goes through the process of upraising the rim then it is considered a
Planchet.. A Blank Planchet

 

When attributing a certain Mint Error TPG NGC will state that a Nickel was struck on a Blank.. That would be without the upraised rim. A normal strike would be on a Planchet which is what we see all the time which have upraised rims. @JCro57 will elaborate better.. It's his specialty.

 

We could call it a "slug": blank = slug, upset slug = planchet. But not very elegant...Spark

 

There is actually a type 2 blank as well as a type 1, plus a type 2 planchet

 

Here you go. Not the same. Not even close. If they were the same, why would all the Mints put them through an upsetting mill? To waste time and money?

Type 1 Blank


Type 2 Planchet


And if I may, below is a Type 1 and Type 2 Blank (both missing rims). The first one was never burnished/polished; the second one was. Again, neither have rims.




Below: a Jefferson nickel and a Mercury dime (broadstruck) on a Blank.

 

As I tell my students, "just because you have never heard about or didn't know it, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist."

 

Blanks are a different diameter than planchets. The upset mill makes the blank a smaller diameter, which is then called a planchet. A Blank will not fit inside the collar of the press.

 

If you want to avoid that inelegant term there is another term for the disk punched from the strip before it is given the raised edge . . . Flan.

 

He did. It is spelled out very clearly in his book on the 100 Greatest U.S. Mint Errors. It is among the many sources describing such matters.