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I thought that last one might be too worn to identify so specifically.

 

1794 S-59 Obverse Die State/Stage A / Reverse Die State/Stage early B with a trace of the break below the rim toward the fraction, but without the break above the second S of STATES.

ps If you'd like my diagnostics on any of these, let me know.

 

I would, thank you.I am leaving town for a few hours today, but will be back this evening.

 

This is 1794 Obverse 2, a head of 93, and is distinguished from Obverses 1 and 3 by the evenly curved date. 1 and 3 each have middle digits higher than the end digits of the date. Confirmed by hair lengths, 2 short on top, a gap, then a singular long lock. another gap, three shorter locks and them the lowest lock. The 94s were not made with a punch which could impart hair detail. so the hair becomes a good diagnostic.

The reverse is Reverse B with the stems very close to the ribbons.

Reverse A has a longer outer leaf under (S)T, while Reverse B has a longer inner leaf. Both are under the upright of (S)T.

While the position of the stems to the ribbons is sufficient for ID, locations of the leaf tips and berries relative to letters of the legend and ONE CENT match as do the positions of the letters in the legend to the dentils.

The 2B is S-19 and comes in 2 subvarieties. The S-19a with the edge of 93{leaf down} (R5+) and S-19b with the edge of 94 (leaf up}(R4).


Edge of 93


Edge of 94

If you look carefully, you can see that the lettering is slightly different as well as the orientation of the leaf.

 

I like when you show yoir coins.

 

I must say that you have a wonderful set so far and is similar to what I try to do when I can get a little more meat on a coin with a problem.

 

I never tire of showing off my first NC with it's two holes.

1797 NC-5

 

I doubt I have an NC. Congrats!

I regret to say it is leaf down.

A 3/4 Cent.

 

Nice. An S-27 R5 variety.

Obverse (9) has 6 strands with the top 2 and middle 2 about the same length and the bottom 2 uneven (top being longer and larger like a crab claw). This is it's only pairing.

The reverse (G) is notable for it's thin leaves which is different than most with broader leaves. It is verified by leaf positions relative to the legend and the legend positions relative to the dentils.

The reverse (G) is also paired with another obverse (10) on S-28 with 7 strands, the top 2 of which are close and parallel and far mot common at R2+.

 

There are 2 reverses on chains, A and C. B was determined to be an altered Reverse and discarded but is skipped to keep the Obverse Reverse designations for the varieties intact.

On Reverse A, the (N)E is distant from the chain and the links are coupled around the middle of (N)T. It is only paired with Obverse 1 on the S-1 so identification of Reverse A is sufficient for Identification of S-1.

On Reverse C, E is close to the links and links are coupled near the top of (N)T. It is paired with Obverses 1 (S-2), 2 (NC-1), 3 (S-3) and 4 (S-4).

In this case, the spacing eliminated 2 which is wider than any other and 4 which is closer than any other. The distinction between 1 and 3 is a little more subtle and I think the B and E are slightly closer, the R slightly tilted to the left, but with the bottom of the upright close to in line with the other letters indicates 1.

On 3, the B and E are a little wider and the R is higher, looking primarily at the base of R compared to E.

 

Leaf down would be an edge of 93 and the R5+.

 

See explanation of the S-2 for identification of the Reverse as Reverse A.

 

Obverse 9 is distinct with the stems of the leaves and an unleafed stem meeting to the lower left. The left leaf also point to the lower "ball" which is between the hair and the leaf.

Reverse H is distinguished from Reverse G (S-8) and I (NC-4) most easily by the position of the lowest outer cotton boll/clover leaf on the left.

On G, it is directly below the (I)T.

On H, it is directly below the (T)E and the leaf point above doesn't reach S.

On I, it is between E and D and the leaf point above reaches right of the middle of S.

 

Reverse F is distinctive as the smallest and fattest loops and most berries of the series. It was used on S-5, S-6, S-7 and NC-4.

The leaves on Obverses 6 (S-5) and 7 (S-6) are very similar, so ususally you look at the significant difference in the size of the date, with Obv. 6 being much larger than Obvs. 7, 8 and 9.

In this case, I looked at the leaf on the left (as well as the entire triplet) almost touching the hair on Obverse 7 as a diagnostic. On 6, it is more distant and the entire triplet is close to centered between the hair and the neck. Stem points to 7.

Obverse 8 Stem points to 9

Obverse 9 has a different leaf structure with stems to the right.

Note. When this Reverse is paired with Obverse 9, it is the NC-4 which is unique and in the ANS Museum. It is the only known variety missing from the collection Dan Holmes put together in 2009. A specially minted gold replica took it's place.

 

See diagnostics under the S-9 post.

 

It is the more common of the 2 leaf positions.

 

Plain Edge

 

Easy way to tell obv 1 and 3 apart is to ignore LIBERTY and look at the truncation of the bust. On 1 it is curved (4 is curved too but the curve is different and the spacing of LIBERTY is very different between 1 and 4), and the truncation of 3 is a straight line.

 

To me, it looks like that area on both S2 & S3 is worn off. I looked at a few on eBay and the difference is noticeable.