Help? > New 1942 D/D Jefferson Nickel (need advice)

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Help? > New 1942 D/D Jefferson Nickel (need advice)

  1. Is this a new variety?

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  2. Or is this a new RPM?

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  1. Tim Hergert

    Tim Hergert New Member

    I acquired a super clear clean 1942 D / D ... you’ll clearly notice one visible D stacked right on top of another visible D. I’ve searched high & low for another example & haven’t found anything. On top of the variety, it’s a great 42D, with electric rainbow toning, in 67 quality... almost FS... this is my first post here, I’m hoping someone can offer a jumpstart. Can anyone tell me anything about this nickel????
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hi Tim..
    I'm thinking that it could be a Die Chip and not a RPM. JMHO
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    too blurry to see anything
     
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  5. Tim Hergert

    Tim Hergert New Member

    I tried to get a close up of the mintmark but that’s as clear as I could get. Even with the blurry photo, can you look at the top left corner of the “D”... do you see the clear outline of the double strike?
     
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    Tim Hergert New Member

     

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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes.. A Die Chip can occur anywhere. In or around the Mint Mark.
     
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  8. Tim Hergert

    Tim Hergert New Member

    Do you see the 2 edges of the D in corner?
    I really appreciate your input as I’m sure your very knowledgeable with nickels. I have 1 more picture, just so I can understand better... the outside corner is doubled & the inside loop is also doubled.
     

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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    What I see is Machine doubling and blurry images.
    I voted for option 3 wishful thinking....;)
    There's 3 known rpm's for the 42 D after 76 years one would believe that if this was an rpm it would of been discovered decades ago.
     
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  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Worth the price of admission to send it in. If you want to go the cheap route to see if it is a D/D, send it to ANACS. Then if they give it the green light, resubmit to PCGS for a cross-over.
     
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  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    There does appear to be what may be splitting on the upper serif and could certainly be suggestive of repunching, but the photos simply are not of sufficient quality to say with any level of certainty or confidence that's what it is.
     
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  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The D over Horizontal D is prominent and plainly visible. I have only ever owned one, but everyone I have seen at auction had the same diagnostic for the mintmark. Sorry Tim but I don't think that is the D over horizontal D.

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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    So thats what they look like. Thanks
     
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  14. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I believe the mintmark on the OP's coin exhibits machine doubling, not an RPM.
     
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  15. Tim Hergert

    Tim Hergert New Member

    This is definitely where I fall short in expertise, so thank you guys for all your input! For some reason I always believed that if there was die doubling, or was die related, that it has dimensions & it protrudes above the surface the same as the original mintmark. And as for machine doubling, I thought this would be flat with the surface or maybe there would be some sort of die rotation (like a slip of the die, you see a surface flat double... or how a Mint Error would look with a die rotation) . I didn’t know there could be a doubling that protrudes off the surface & could still be considered machine. Being how the doubling is as thick as the mintmark, can anyone offer any insight to help me understand how this a little better? It seems like it was easy for everyone to tell the difference, so I’m curious if anyone has a general rule to help determine this?
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    A workable photo would probably make for a fine start and allow the membership to directly address this without having to resort to assumption.

    This may be of some help to you though...

    http://doubleddie.com/144801.html
     
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  17. BigDowgie

    BigDowgie Junior Member

    Tough one Tim without better pictures. I think we can rule out Machine Doubling, as I see no flat, shelf-like doubling on the mint mark. On the right side of the curve and on top-left on the "D", those marks are probably a little Die Chip or Die Scratch. I don't see how this is part of another "D". However, there could be a second "D" south, as I might be seeing a split in the upper portion of the top serif. That better picture sure would be helpful. My suggestion would be to send it to James Wiles for attribution. This could be a new RPM that needs to be listed in CONECA? Visit his site at www.VarietyVista.com. Good luck!
     
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