Hurray for Fourrées!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Gavin Richardson, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Here's one I purchased from Valentinian himself.

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    Roman Republican moneyer Q. Minucius Rufus
    122 B.C.
    AR denarius (fourée)
    18.87 mm. 2.75 g. 0°
    Helmeted head of Roma facing right, X below, [RVF behind?]
    The Dioscuri galloping right.
    S 152; Syd 421; Crawford 277/1
     
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  3. Thank you! And when the article comes together, I shall certainly see that you get a copy.

    Cordially,

    Mac
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Please as if there are other categories for which you need images. I do not have a copper over iron as but do have several fourrees.
     
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    My only fourree (well that I'm aware of being a fourree I mean...)

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    Mark Antony, Fourree denarius Minted in Athens in 32 BC
    ANTON AVG IMP III COS DES III III V R P C, bare head of Mark Antony right
    ANTONINVS / AVG IMP III in two lines
    3,52 gr
    Ref : RCV # 1478, HCRI # 347, RSC # 2, Cohen # 2

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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm, how did I miss posting my other fourree in this thread? :)

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    Roman Republic, Lucius Aurelius Cotta
    105 BCE
    Fourree AR serrate denarius, 20 mm, 3.8 gm
    Obv: draped bust of Vulcan right, wearing laureate pileus; tongs and star behind; all within wreath and dotted border
    Rev: eagle standing on thunderbolt, head left; L·COT below, V to right; all within laurel wreath and dotted border
    Ref: c.f. Crawford 314/1c; Sydenham 577a; Aurelia 21b
    formerly slabbed

    A previous owner, probably a relatively recent owner, seems to have done some additional filing of a serration. I suppose it was to get a better look inside.

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  7. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Well the copper looks bright so it appears to be a recent filing. This could actually be a very good thing. I've been investigating as to whether I could gain regular access to an XRF X-ray florescence spectrometer or if any of the national clubs, like the ANS could get one.

    These do non-destructive analysis of the surface metal composition of a target. While the inside looks copper, it is possible to also get an analysis of the secondary elements; such as silver, lead, tin, Cd, Zn, & etc. These could be used to get a clear view of the material used without trying to see thru oxides & salts.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I wonder if this was to settle a bet. Customer A told dealer B that the coin was fourree and overpriced. Dealer B offered to enlarge the cut to settle the matter if customer A agreed to pay the price if it was solid. It was not.
     
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  9. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Given my experiences with coin dealers this is actually the most likely scenario!
     
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