1808 Capped Bust Half....Grade?

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  1. What ya'll think the grade is? Also, does it look partially cleaned on the obverse and reverse?
     

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  3. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I would say Fine-15 Details, and yes. It looks as if Liberty’s face was cleaned and touched up.
     
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    If it was cleaned, it was a very, very old cleaning that has toned over. The coin appears to be market acceptable on that front. I'm a little more concerned about the magnitude of the scratches in her hair, and in the fields in front of her face. I think it's probably market acceptable, but I'm not a huge fan of them.

    And I think you have enough detail left for a VF-20 grade. These early type Bust halves are really hard to grade because the strike is often wonky. The relief is also different for early vs. later date capped bust halves.
     
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  5. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think it would grade at 15 or 20.
     
  7. *coins

    *coins Well-Known Member

    Lol, it's over 200 years old - it had to have been cleaned somewhere along the lines. I would say it is more on the F-12 side.
     
  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Agree with old cleaning. It doesn't look too bad.
    Agree with F-15/ high at VF -20.
     
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  9. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    +1
     
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    VF details, scratched
     
  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

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    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

  13. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Active Member

    It looks like an Overton O-106, R3. The 106a is full of die cracks both sides (which I don’t see — but are not easy to spot from pictures) and is rated only R2. I have an O-103 graded VF details/cleaned by PCGS, but evaluated “VF25-30” by the well-regarded specialist I got it from c. 10 yrs ago. Yours has not quite as much detail, but close, so I’d guess they’d give it a VF — certainly no less than F15. Don’t think the light test scratches in the obverse field would be noted. And if it was cleaned it must have been done a good century ago! I think it’s very natural-looking, fully rating the old-timey, pre-technical grade of “nice”.
     
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  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Reverse to worn. Can't guess cuz obverse is way better. Puzzled. I guessed one right today. Don't want to show how bad i really is
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Book says clasp at shoulder. What is a clasp. Ok vf. 25
     
  16. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    The clasp holds Liberty's gown together. This happens to be an O-102A rather than a 106 like the OP, but it shows a strong clasp.
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  17. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Active Member

    Ooooooooh! NICE! (Even nicer than mine.....)
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks. I get it now
     
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