Is this a normal color or artificial?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by WannieA, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. WannieA

    WannieA ~ Thrive

    Sorry, I am relatively new. I didn't know if coins normally turned a bluish color (I would assume not?) I was going to keep it because I liked the coloring, and kind of a glossed-over look that the pictures don't really show (not sure if there's a terminology for this LOL)- but was just curious if pennies could turn this color naturally. I tried to get it from different angles to capture the color but it is a shiny bluish brown. Thank you! 1990P1.JPG 1990 PENNY1.JPG 1990 PENNY.JPG 1990 PENNY2.JPG
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's not a bad looking coin, But I suspect the color to come from a washing machine, which would make it artificial.
     
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  4. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Keep it if u like it!
     
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  5. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Hey, Wannie, IRC, I’ve seen a lot of Cents tone pink and blue out of mint rolls. So yes it is natural toning. Pop it in a Mylar or cardboard flip and cherish it.
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The coin COULD BE that color naturally. Your avatar's complexion? No way.
     
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  7. WannieA

    WannieA ~ Thrive

    True, but that’s why I love my make up LOL
     
  8. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Just don’t be putting foundation on coins now, Wannie. They will come back with Details, Altered Surfaces. Lol.
     
  9. WannieA

    WannieA ~ Thrive

    HAHAHAHAHA. I will try not to!
     
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    No, that cent has had some chemical applied to it. Those colors are not usually found naturally on copper coins, especially not with that appearance.
     
  11. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I think Physics-Fan is more knowledgeable about toning than any of us here..... sooooo.... I stand corrected. The expert has spoken.
     
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  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Disagree, I've seen the color so many times. As you can see, the color is UNDER the brown....completely natural. Here's an example from my collection:
    1970DlincolnTONER2016.jpg 1970DlincolnTONER20162.jpg 1970DlincolnTONER2016rev.jpg 1970DlincolnTONER2016rev2.jpg
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yup, the blue is more common than it usually lets on. Does it TYPICALLY show? Oh heck, no. But it does happen.
     
  14. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't want to revive this age old argument, because we've hashed and rehashed it more times than I can count. But the cent shown here has been treated by a chemical - that doesn't just happen on its own. You might have a brown cent with highlights, and then you treat it, and bam, out pops the blue.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'll just let you hammer that out with Carl Waltz, Jr., and I'll just go get more popcorn. I know your work, and I ALSO know people with credentials who dispute what you write. I just got back from hanging out with several of them.
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yeah, they do. And there's nothing anybody can do about it.

    Just a word of advice. If you're ever thinking of getting serious about the hobby, forget this "natural vs. artificial" business, and collect what turns you on. Nobody knows how to define those abstract terms in any way that means anything to anybody else, that's just the cold, hard truth. You'll be a happier collector for it, too.
     
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  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Here is how weird Carl is, compared to the CoinTalk ethos: His display at Philly contained SEVERAL old Lincolns with SIGNIFICANT amounts of blue on them, all in PCGS slabs. EVERY one of his detailed photographs, was in black & white because to Carl, (you're not going to believe this, CT'ers), color is UTTERLY IRRELEVANT. Chew on THAT a little bit, folks. Yes, Carl is a fellow rural Pennsylvanian.
     
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  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That is a very odd position to take, and I wholeheartedly disagree with it. Color is EXTREMELY important. For closeup die variety photographs, I agree that color can be a distraction - but there are few things more important to me than the eye appeal of a coin (of which color is a significant part).
     
  19. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    All toning is nature - some of it is just helped along and sped up unnaturally. This one had something happen to it to give it the purple and blue colors without other colors.
     
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  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I got a few '60's cents that I had in manila flips that I collected as a lad years ago. Some of the colors are breathtaking.......
     
  21. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Can you post pictures? Because I collect breathtakingly toned Lincoln cents, and I always want to see more. Here are some examples, which I believe to all be natural, and which are all TPG certified:

    JPA977 obverse.jpg
    JPA977 reverse.jpg
    JPA987 obverse.jpg
    JPA987 reverse.jpg
    JPA990 reverse.jpg
    JPA990 obverse.jpg
    JPA956 obverse (2).jpg
    JPA956 reverse (2).jpg
     
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