1888/7 indian head cent

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  1. Krd046

    Krd046 Active Member

    Very hard to convince these folks at times.
     
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I see that dusty cheek, etc all the time on low end unc coins. But hey, maybe I'm wrong.
     
  4. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Thinking a typo...a die chip attached to the rim is a "cud". And other members on this thread are much more knowledgeable of IHCs, but it is on all of them because they were all produced from the same die pair, don't know if any reverse die pairing/switching was going on, presuming a discreet die pair...Spark
     
  5. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Full diamonds
    full feathers
    full liberty
    some rub

    I'm in at 58
     
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  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Put me in the "ignorant" group then as I agree with Rick , there appears to be problems that do not look correct. This is a coin variety that must be checked carefully in hand. If PCGS or NGC authenticates it, mea culpa, Best of luck. Jim
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    No need for you to start insulting others with a different opinion. I have seen over a dozen of these that look like the OP's coin that turned out to not be the variety.
    I'm still waiting for an image that actually shows the detail. Get better images and send them to Rick Snow.
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Better yet, Get me a better image and I'll get it in front of Rick Snow for you.
     
  9. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    how would i get in contact to him, does he have a site or anything ?
     
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My “opinion” is actually a fact. I pointed out the two diagnostics that almost all of the 1888/7 cents have, and they match up exactly. I just can’t fathom how you still have doubts about the variety attribution.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Because it takes more than just those two diagnostics and we are looking at poor images. We know that it is not S-1 Die stage A. It would have to be stage B.
    Where are the diagnostics inside the upper loop of the 8 and on the left side of the top of the 8? We can't see those because of the images. As I said, I have seen way too many of these be proven wrong in the past.
    It's clear you are the expert. You help the OP get the coin in good plastic with S-1 on the label. I'm finished with you.

    To the OP. Ignore everyone here and send the coin to Rick Snow or PCGS. PCGS will use Rick if they question it. I wish you luck.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    It is the S-1. There is 0% doubt about that. I have absolutely no idea what is holding you back. As far as authenticity goes, I guess we’ll see. I am only arguing variety attribution, not authenticity.

    “If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.”
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I'm going to throw my hat in the ring. I like your chances that is a 8 over 7. Yeah baby
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You are the expert. I'll repeat myself. Where are the diagnostics inside the upper loop of the 8 and on the left side of the top of the 8?
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    You mean these two? Yeah they are clearly there.

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    I have no idea what you are trying to prove. It seems you are just trying to deflect the embarrassment of being wrong.
     
  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Cant we all just be friends?
     
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  18. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The worst information is misinformation. I’m just trying to get rid of it.
     
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  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Go back and read what I have posted in this thread. Nothing I said is wrong. I never said the coin is not the variety, I said that I'm not sure it is the variety and that's true. I also said that we need better images and that's also true.
    It's all there, go back and read it. I feel no embarrassment.

    I also feel that with a coin such as this, you have to prove what you say it is. We should all be on the same page there.

    Lets go back to the coin.
    Note the look of the top of the 8. Almost looks like an 8 over an 8 or some type of doubling. I can't find a known example of the S-1 that looks like that.

    Also note the left side of the 8 where the two loops join. What is that? Again, I can't find a known example with that feature.

    Too many questions for me to call this a coin worth thousands of dollars. Could this be a new die stage of the S-1? I Don't know. Fake? Again, I don't know. That's where the real expert, Rick Snow comes in.
     
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  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    If you look closely, you will see that those are indents in the numeral. PMD.

    I saw that when I first saw this thread. I still have no explanation for it. It does not look like moved metal or debris.

    But regardless, this coin is the S-1. Absolutely no doubt about that. If it is fake, then it is a die transfer of a genuine S-1. There is no doubt about it.
     
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  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Why doesn't someone post this coin on " Collectors Universe " that's where Rick Snow ( Eagle Eye ) hangs out .
     
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