Wow! A Zinc Cent Copper Shell Double Struck with 2 Dates; No Reverse Strike

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JCro57, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    This is one of my more truly bizarre, unique, and head-scratching errors.

    First, it really is not a "shell," as the micro plating is too thin to be just the coper layer by itself on copper-plated zinc cents. Part of the zinc planchet is attached, so I am not sure why PCGS labeled it as they did.

    I am also not sure if the planchet split in half, because on most split planchets it doesn't look so smooth. And was this clipped, or is it a fragment, or some other trauma? And if so, what happened?

    It is definitely cool, however. Double struck with 2 Dates, and you can even see the date on the other side of the incused image of Lincoln. Lots going on here, and in a super nice grade. Never, ever have I seen anything like this before. This is a great error piece for my collection! MS65 by PCGS.

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That's a cool error. I've never seen anything like it. :)
     
  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    IDK what they mean by copper shell. Plenty of zinc present.
    I would think it was a fragment. Maybe an expert would know.
    I like the piece very much, but I have no idea how they can grade it MS 65
    when you factor in the reverse.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not true.. They have a trick where you can remove the entire Zinc core and all that is left is the Copper Shell.

    It is called Hollowing
     
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  6. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Would love to see an example of that. And a certified one. I can't imagine it is possible to occur naturally.
     
  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    There are lots of one-sided and uniface coins that are given grades without the oppositte side on them.
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Just added a YouTube video to my previous post.
     
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  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I understand, and have seen some. I don't agree with it.
    You don't have 100% of the coin to grade.
     
  10. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

     
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  11. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    For God’s sake, don’t give this guy any attention. Just report it! Use your brain!!!!
     
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  12. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I used to think that way, and I understand your take on it. What I find odd is how some grade errors like weak strikes or broadstrikes that have all stretched out features. How can that be graded? And what determines an AU58 from am MS62?
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I think there is a gray area here, and as I said before I don't agree on their approach. Some of these coins can be graded. But some should not, coins that are less than half of a coin for example. I would list it as the error classification, and genuine. But I would not give it a numerical grade.
     
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  14. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    i did report it
     
  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry for my shortness.
     
  16. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    U good
     
  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    ==> https://www.cointalk.com/threads/post-your-pmd-post-mint-damage-coin.318993/page-2#post-3132617

    That "error" coin is interesting. If I spent enough time I could probably reproduce it.

    • For instance to get one half of a penny you rub the edge on sandpaper all the way around to show the zinc. Or if you want part of the edge remaining, then just the lower part of the edge. This will separate and make two halves when the acid eats it away.
    • To prevent the obverse from any acid etching .. just put a small amount of acid that does not cover the top; only up half the height of the cent.
    • To get a zinc back to the copper you simply don't let it sit in acid for too long so that it doesn't eat away all of the zinc. And since you only put in a little, there's not enough height of acid to the cent. It bubbles, or more like fizzies so you can guesstimate it.
    • The right side - it kinda does that fold thing if you touch it as it's so thin.
    • The left side - I'd have to experiment .. touch it with a hot torch flame maybe?
     
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  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I want to know how they got that cent?
    in a Penny Roll ?
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Same thing as on a normal coin, wear and marks.
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    How did Chris @cpm9ball get in this thread, says he hasn't been around since the 15th of April.
     
  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looked to me that someone cut and pasted one of his comments. Poor taste in my opinion.
     
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