Constantinopolis with VICTORIA reverse from Rome

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    This coin intersects a couple of recent topics. There have been a few Constantinopolis topics and one about "How poor does a coin need to be before it's not good enough for you?" Well this coin is in pretty rough condition but it is also fairly rare, so I was happy to pick it up.

    some more on the Constantinoplis type from my page-

    http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/comm/

    The victory on a prow type alludes to the naval victory of Crispus and his subsequent capture of Byzantium (soon to be re-named Constantinople). Zosimus said that Constantine's fleet had 200 ships and Licinius had 350 ships. Zosimus might have exaggerated, but all sources agreed that Constantine's fleet was greatly outnumbered. What accounted for the surprise victory of Constantine's forces? Could it have been that Constantine had better trained sailors...maybe divine providence? A papyrus letter from circa A.D. 323, gives an answer. The letter is from a procurator who said that the government of Egypt had an urgent requirement of box and acanthus wood for repair of the men-at-war vessels in the arsenals of Memphis and Babylon. Egypt sent a total of 130 ships to serve in the navy of Licinius, but it seems that they were all old tubs!


    Constantinopolis
    Commemorative
    A.D. 337- 340
    15mm 1.6gm
    CONSTANTINOPOLIS; laureate, helmeted, wearing imperial mantle, holding scepter.
    VICTORIA AVG; Victory stg. on prow, holding wreath and palm.
    in exergue R ✶ E
    RIC VIII Rome 31

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  3. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Generally I want about VF or above/like to see the details. But some coins have specially appeal so there are exceptions to wants and rules for me.
     
  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Fascinating bit of history, didn't know about that letter!

    I did't look at all the reverses, is this the only one with a reverse legend?
     
  5. randygeki

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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, rest of this type is anepigraphic. This one was issued after the death of Constantine and, though the regular type was also struck, Rome also issued this special type. Also notice instead of the usual shield and scepter, Victory has a wreath and palm branch. The companion piece to this is the VRBS ROMA BEATA; which differs from the normal type because of the addition of BEATA in the legend.

    an example from gb collection

    urbs_roma_beata.jpg
     
  7. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    I was not aware of this variety, but am intrigued to learn of it. The victory on prow image does seem to be related to the victory of Crispus, but I wonder about the addition of the reverse inscription. It seems rather late in the game for this type to suddenly add a reverse inscription after the old man had passed. Any further thoughts on that?
     
  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    why would it be late in the game...this type and the VRBS ROMA BEATA were issued shortly after the death of Constantine.
     
  9. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Fantastic, types I am fond of. I did a write up on these here.
    ri210.jpg
    Commemorative Series
    Mint Rome
    336/337 AD
    Obvs: CONSTANTINOPOLIS, Laureate and helmeted bust left, wearing imperial mantle, holding reversed spear.
    Revs: VICTO RIA AVG, Victory standing left on prow, holding wreath and palm. ϵ below.
    AE 13x15mm, 0.76g
    Ref: RIC VIII 31

    ri157.jpg
    Commemorative Series
    Mint Rome
    337 to 340 AD
    Obvs: VRBS ROMA BEATA, Roma helmeted, draped, and cuirassed left.
    Revs: She-wolf standing left, head right, suckling the twins. Above wreath between two stars, R * Q.
    AE 14x15mm, 1.22g
    Ref: RIC VIII 29

    ri240.jpg Commemorative Series
    Mint Constantinople
    330 AD
    Obvs: POP ROMANVS, Draped bust of genius left, cornucopia over shoulder.
    Revs: Eight pointed star in wreath, CONSI.
    AE 14mm, 1.44g
    Ref: RIC VIII 22

    ri241.jpg
    Commemorative Series
    Mint Rome
    348 AD
    Obvs: RO MA, Helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left.
    Revs: Emperor standing facing, head left, wearing military attire, holding spear and shield. P–R across field.
    AE 16mm, 2.38g
    Ref: RIC VIII 104
    ex Victor Clark

    ri242.jpg
    Commemorative Series
    Mint Rome
    348 AD
    Obvs: CONSTANTINOPOLIS, Laureate and helmeted bust left, wearing imperial mantle, holding reversed spear.
    Revs: Pax standing left, holding branch and scepter. P–R across field.
    AE 15mm, 1.60g
    Ref: RIC VIII 106

    ri234.jpg Commemorative Series
    Mint Constantinople
    336/337 AD
    Obvs: VRBS ROMA, Helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left.
    Revs: Two soldiers standing facing one another, each holding reversed spear and resting hand upon shield. Between, signum surmounted by banner with annulet. CONSϵ
    AE 15x16mm, 1.44g
    Ref: RIC VII 143

    ri235.jpg Commemorative Series
    Mint Heraclea
    347/348 AD
    Obvs: CONSTANTINOPOLI, Laureate and helmeted bust left, wearing imperial mantle, holding reversed spear.
    Revs: VOT XX MVLT XXX, in wreath. SMHΓ
    AE 12x14mm, 1.02g
    Ref: RIC VIII 50

    ri236.jpg Commemorative Series
    Mint Constantinople
    336/337 AD
    Obvs: CONSTANTINOPOLI, Laureate and helmeted bust left, wearing imperial mantle, holding reversed spear.
    Revs: Two soldiers standing facing one another, each holding reversed spear and resting hand upon shield. Between, signum surmounted by banner with annulet. CONSZ
    AE 13x15mm, 1.27g
    Ref: RIC VII 144
    ex Warren Esty

    ri237.jpg Commemorative Series
    Mint Heraclea
    347/348 AD
    Obvs: VRBS ROMA, Helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left.
    Revs: VOT XX MVLT XXX, in wreath. SMHB
    AE 13x14mm, 1.41g
    Ref: RIC VIII 49
    ex Warren Esty
     
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