Possible Flipping of a coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by CoinBlazer, Jul 15, 2018.

  1. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    1943 S Jefferson Nickel(NOT PURCHASED)

    LCS Price-$8
    in 2x2 with estimated grade of MS 65


    Values
    CDN Greysheet-15 Dollars
    Red Book -20 Dollars
    PCGS CoinFacts-$30
    NGC-$20


    True Apporximate value-$21

    Agree, Disagree?
    Polite comments and feedback requested
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Recent ebay sold items show PCGS/NGC graded MS65s selling for less than $20 on average.
     
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The LCS price is average for a raw UNC Silver War Nickel. To get the $20, the coin would need to either be certified (which would cost you more than $20 and would thus not be worth it) or be a very eye appealing example (i.e. colorfully toned, prooflike, or blazing luster).
     
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  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Estimated grade of MS-65 means nothing.
    You can get the coin and it could be a 63 or an AU-58.
    Let's see some photos.
    Love the war nickels.
     
  6. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I don't own it
    Still at the LCS
    Thats why I said Not purchased
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Lets see. It's an $8 coin and you need help?
    If you can't grade it in hand, don't buy it.
     
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  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    It's all in the "in 2x2 with estimated grade of MS 65"

    depends if it's close to a MS65 or not. Use pcgs.com/coingrade program to compare to see if you think it is a 65 or not.

    If it is, then $8 is a good deal.
     
  9. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I disagree with your approximate value and so does the owner of the LCS. Why would he be selling a coin at a fraction of its value, and how long would he stay in business if he did this regularly? The war nickels can be fairly easily found with nice pastel toning in the old capital plastics holders in the $60-75 range for the entire run. I paid $120 for a set recently because they were ALL stunners with nice toning and dripping with luster. They are destined for my Dansco.
     
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  10. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I think the give away here is the “estimated grade” in his listing. If I sell a car I always show the good side first and that’s rather the vibe I get here. Jefferson’s are something of a hard sell anyway. I think it may be a reasonable gamble if your intent is to flip the piece. I rather don’t think you will get the return you hope for. And you will have a lot of effort invested for a very minimal return.
     
  11. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Imma buy the coin just for the hecks of it. Then i'll post a picture
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    This is somewhat of a dilemma for me also, I have coins that are not worth much, that I purchased for less than what they are selling for now, but WHERE do you sell such items. E-bay fees would eat up any profit.
     
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  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Craigslist ?
    lol

    That's the problem. SOLD Auctions are the amount before fees are tacked on thus lowering the actual total revenue.

    You have to sell to the collector, as selling to a middlemen is just going to lose your total revenue. Otherwise Hope for a bidding auction war ...
     
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  14. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    Disagree.

    1. The price guides are inflated.
    2. To get PCGS/NGC prices it needs to be in PCGS/NGC plastic.
    3. 8-12 is probably full retail for a coin depending on whether it really is a gem, eye appeal, etc.
     
  15. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    If you're looking to buy the coin for the sole purpose of flipping it, don't. It wouldn't be worth the time or effort required.

    If you're looking to buy the coin because you like it, then buy it. We're talking about $8, so there is no potential bankruptcy-inducing loss at risk here, and that's even if you are a newspaper boy.
     
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  16. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    It is very hard to make money in this hobby unless you are experienced and know what you're doing. There are no shortcuts unfortunately.
     
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  17. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I dont have a nice war nickel example and so I'm going to buy it for my type set
     
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  18. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Perfect reason to buy ANY coin! Enjoy it, and update with pics.
     
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  19. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @CoinBlazer Like these guys said, making money flipping coins is difficult. You need to have a high level of specialized knowledge (grading, varieties, etc). Basically, you're betting that you know more than dealer about the coin. I'm not trying to be rude, but if you have to ask on a forum like CT, you probably don't have the requisite experience yet.
     
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  20. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    no offense taken. Just a thought that rolled through my head while browsing his inventory
     
  21. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I just read on a facebook forum from some more newbie flippers. They're losing a bunch of money trying to buy a coin from one site, and sell it in facebook. Of course, they're learning to now set reserves, of which then it may not sell and it will stay in their inventory.

    A few years ago when some of the FB stuff started taking off, I took advantage of it becz I saw coins selling for much less than on eBay. So I snatched up some things that I liked. Of course, I think I overpaid for some other stuff too .. so ...

    It all comes down to your purchase price (ever notice how dealers here say a coin is worth much less versus someone giving a general value guidance); and how much the buyer wants it - especially in a heated auction environment.

    The more you know about the market for a particular coin, your purchase price, and your overhead costs, the better off you will be. You'll also have to track when the better times are to sell it (like the day after christmas isn't a good time; although several weeks after when ppl are trying to get something that they really wanted may be a good time).

    I have some stuff I bought years ago that I'm thinking of selling, but some I overpaid, others I underpaid, and others were about right. Of course since then some of it's valuation has gone up, others gone down. So some I would make money on, to breakeven to actually losing money. Oh well ...
     
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