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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pavlos, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Most (but not necessarily all) collectors on this site will tell you that there's no "right" or "wrong" way to collect ancient coins. This is the best advice you can listen to as you're learning about ancients.

    As he implies above, DougSmit's personal preference is to collect a very broad range of coins for the educational value they provide, and his collection has literally thousands of coins that illustrate and elucidate differences among these coins. Unless you have an essentially unlimited budget, this preference will result in a collection that has more affordable coins rather than museum-quality display pieces.

    If you spend time (a LOT of time) reviewing threads on this site, you'll see collection preferences including:

    - Roman Republican-era denarii
    - Judaean coins
    - Late Roman bronzes (LRBs)
    - Flavian coins
    - 12 Caesars collections
    - Mythical animals (man-faced bulls, Chimaera, Pegasus, Griffin, winged boars)
    - Greek vs. Roman
    - Historically significant coins

    The list is endless. And usually, these threads/posts are accompanied by the collector's reasons for his/her collecting focus and why a particular coin appeals to them. This is where you'll learn even more about what coins may appeal to you, too.

    Some collections are extraordinarily high-end (http://www.colosseocollection.com/home), in addition to being significant in many other ways. What's great about this site is that no CoinTalk collector is collecting primarily or even secondarily to make a profit from his/her collection. While it's likely that many of the collectors here will realize long-term appreciation in some of their coins, that's incidental and irrelevant to their own preferences and the reasons they collect.

    So you'll learn even from those posts illustrating coins that may be currently out of your reach financially. You'll learn why many (but not all) collectors here recommend buying the best coin you can afford (that appeals to you and fits your collecting focus), rather than just a hole-filler about which you may have some reservations and regrets at a later date.

    All of this learning will take time and effort, but this site will give you the broadest range of opinions and preferences, as well as illustrations of coins that were purchased and the thinking behind those purchases. Be sure to start threads and ask questions about any topic that interests you.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Welcome, @Pavlos! You've picked up a wonderful assortment of coins.

    Looking forward to more of your CoinTalk contributions :).
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are other matters relating to coin condition that I consider important beyond absolute grade. One is eye appeal. Some coins have no wear and are still ugly due to some other factor. Centering and completeness of design come to mind but there are others. Another is style. Some dies of the same coin are simply better than others when it comes to artistic execution. Some were engraved by the shop master; some by the guy who should have found employment elsewhere. Do you care? Some of us do more than others. Another is whether the coin, however beautiful it may be, shows the significant parts of the detail that make that coin a representative of its type. This might be a coin missing a single letter of its legend that makes it impossible to tell from another variety. I prefer a legionary denarius of Mark Antony that is worn to fine but has a clear strike of the legion number to a mint state coin just enough off center or on a small flan so you can not tell if it is a Legion XIV or XIX. In this, I would be in the minority. Such factors are why we all have different paths as we wander through our hobby.
     
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  5. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Thank you so much for the replies and input. I kind of a bit regret getting the Alexander drachm I have now, I was thinking that if I had spend around 20-30 dollars more (I paid around 30 dollars for the one I have now) I would have a much nicer one (less scratchy and more detailed), but on one side I just started but on the other side the "buying the best coin you can afford" sentence is haunting my mind :joyful:

    My drachm is by the way Price 1919 (http://numismatics.org/pella/id/price.1919), mint in Magnesia (Ionia) between 325-323 BC, which makes it a lifetime issue. Lifetime issues are more valuable I think?
     
  6. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    I doubt you'll regret it very much -- it was inexpensive and it got you started into collecting ancients, which pretty much makes it worth the price alone.
     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    I wonder why your coins are for sale on a local site in the Netherlands ?

    one example:

    pavlos same on mp.jpg
     
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  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Here's another one:

    pavlos antiochus.jpg
     
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  9. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    I got them from there, will send a message why they are still on sale... As I already got the coins.
     
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  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    They probably just haven't updated their website.
     
  11. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Chris just confirmed he sold the coins, as Pavlos said.

    his description for the Alexander III drachma 3,98 gram 15mm- lifetime 325 BC , mint Magnesia Meander
    description Syrian Antioch bronze: 5,56 gram 19mm - Antiochus VIII Epiphanes 121-96 BC
     
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  12. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Got a reply as well and he removed the coins from the website.
     
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  13. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    The second Alexander the great drachm I got, I think a nice addition to my new coin collection, so far the finest and most expensive coin I got.
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    Should be a Price 1823, so posthumous, under Antigonus I.

    I paid a 100 dollar for it, no idea if that is cheap, the right price or too much? I hope someone can tell me that so I know for the future how much I would go for such a coin until I am paying way too much.
     
  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that's a way kool one Pavos, and not a bad price ..i've got some i'm thinkin' now are not just ATGlll coins now also, but not sure who they'd be under. Alexander coins 002.JPG Alexander coins 003.JPG
     
  15. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    I think both your coins are posthumous because zeus got his legs crossed but I can't really recognize any monogram. The bronze coin, like mine has a thunderbolt on the back, it is some monogram for a mint as well, but more I don't know.
     
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