Medieval Papal Bulla

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  1. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    My first Papal item:

    Rome, Gregory X (Tebaldo Visconti), 1272-1276 Bulla 1272-1276, PB 38mm., 90.33g. GRЄ/GORIVS/· P P · X’ · in three lines; all within linear-beaded border; (Ω above P P). Rev. S PA S PE Bare heads of Sts. Paul and Peter, facing slightly r. and l., respectively, each within beaded halo; cruciform sceptrr between; all within beaded-linear border. Serafini I 1-2.

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    Please pile-on anything related to the Church or crusades.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Saw it in your forvm gallery, pretty neat!
     
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  4. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Is the seal made of lead?
     
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  5. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Yes. I’ve heard some bulla were produced in precious metal but those are rare.
     
  6. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Papal Bulls were not all that common. Do you have any idea what the subject of the Bull was all about? From the date, maybe something in connection with putting down the Albigensians.
     
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  7. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    Those are called chrysobulls, which are golden bulls. Here is a Byzantine one. https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=200258
     
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  8. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Gregory X only wrote one, concerning the election of Popes. I have not read it yet but ideally I’ll get a real vellum one to go with the bulla.
     
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  9. Trebellianus

    Trebellianus VOT II MVLT III

    Very interesting — don't believe I'd ever seen one of these before. Rather strong Byzantine ambience from the text-only obverse. Are those things above and beside the "PP X" symbols or just deficiencies in the strike?
     
  10. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Omega above PP but the other thing might be an error. Unfortunately I won’t have an opportunity to inspect for another week.
     
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  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Saint Louis participated in the Crusades. St Luis.jpg St Luis R.jpg
     
  12. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    The ‘9’ symbol after the ‘X’ is a latin abbreviation for ‘us.’ The omega above the ‘P’s is another abbreviation denoting that the ‘a’s in ‘papa’ (pope) are missing. So the bull reads “Gregorius Papa Decimus”
     
  13. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Awesome, thank you.
     
  14. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    What a great coin @Nicholas Molinari! I have no papal items (yet), but just recently purchased this Crusader coin from Tripoli, minted in the same years as your coin.
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    CRUSADER, Tripoli
    1275-1287 AD, Bohemond VII
    AR Half Gros 2.10 gm - 20mm
    Obv: +CIVITΛS: TRIPOLIS:SVRIΕ, or var, Fortified gateway in tressure, a triple-toward gateway of two stories, with crenellations and pointed arches
    Rev: +SEPTIMVS : BOEMVNDVS : COMES, or var, Cross in tressure of 12 arches
    Reference: MPS.27
     
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  15. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I have a lead bulla much like the OP, but a bit later. It was issued by Pope Benedict XII, one of the Avignon popes, and I suppose this lead seal might have been issued in Avignon instead of Rome. It's rather oval and there's a deep hole at the lower side, probably because there was a ribbon through it, fastening it to the charter it came with. I suppose that charter was of vellum, written in dozens or hundreds of copies to disseminate the papal text into the Christian world. All with bullas.

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    This bulla must have been in the ground, it's covered in grey grime, and the hole is silted up. Many others probably slumbered in ecclesiastical archives for centuries before these were ripped open and destroyed, for instance in Napoleonic times. Mine is much lighter than that of Nicholas:
    Lead bulla, Avignon, Pope Benedictus XII (1334-1342). Obv. Saints Paul and Peter under text SPE-SPA. Rev. BENE/ DICTVS/ PP-XII. 35 x 40 mm, 49.22 gr., 12h.
     
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  16. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Its an area I am interested in but not my strong suit to be sure.
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    RichardIII
    1483-1485 CE, Silver Groat,
    type III, London mint,
    crowned facing bust, within
    tressure of nine arcs, large
    fleur on six cusps, initial sun
    and rose 3 both sides, rev
    long cross pattée, tri-pellets
    in each inner angle, twin
    concentric legends and
    beaded circles surrounding,
    2.71g (N 1679; S 2157)
     
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