2014 Britannia Silver Proof back from NGC

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by sonlarson, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    I don't submit many coins but I was sure I had a shot at a PR70 with this one. Low mintage, 2,500, and I had COA #126. I guess a coins has to be submitted by a major player to get the 70 designation. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with the 69, it's just that there is about a $300-$400 difference in the two. I still more than made up the purchase cost with this grade. I can't check the census numbers since the NGC site has been down for the last couple of days.

    2014 Silver Proof Britannia PR69 Ultra Cameo
    Great Britian 2014 Silver Proof Britannia PR69 Slab.jpg
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    This is a popular myth and completely untrue.
     
  4. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    I know that, but it sometimes it feels that way. I know the grader are fair and unbiased. Luck of the draw;)
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Truer than you know. Sometimes I swear they flip a coin. Heads, your coin gets a 70, tails, it gets a 69.
     
  6. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    So they say...


    Beautiful coin sonlarson
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'll bet if you cracked it, and resubmitted it, it would come back a '70.......or not. devil.gif
     
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  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm certainly no bigwig in any way, and I get 70's.
     
  9. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that bigwigs only receive 70's...
    But, I may be leaning towards that the "major players" as sonlarson put it, are more likely to receive better grades... just speculation.
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    They do because they submit them in bulk and then wholesale the 69’s.
     
  11. Morpheus

    Morpheus Active Member

    210 in PF69
    1146 in PF70

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  12. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

  13. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Makes me wonder how somebody got a 65.
     
  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Often times one sees that because people will request a minimum of 70. If the coin does not get the 70, then it is not holdered or entered into the report.

    This 2014 is a more expensive coin, so the 69 graded ones still make sense to be holdered but upon initial release it’s possible that dealers only had the 70s slabbed.
     
  15. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I seen some coins shown me (NOT mine) that were off quite a bit - both NGC and PCGS. I don not for a moment believe grading is independent of the submitter; this also does not mean necessarily other small-time submitters might not get the nod in a grade. I once sent one of my coins back because of the ridiculous grade - to P - and they upped it from a 58 to a 63! BTW, that was a 1905 Halfcrown.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    In my day, '65' was just 'passing' (HS)..........

    Now folks pass me at 75 or 80.............
     
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