Lincoln Cent Help - 1909

Hey everyone,

I'm finally starting to get back into my coin collection and hope to be posting and learning from this great site much more often. For now, I would really love everyone's opinion on these 2 coins and help me with a few questions, mainly for the S VDB. First is the 1909-S VDB and the second is a 1909-S.


1. Do you think this is an authentic coin? That is probably a good place to start and with all rare coins, a little peace of mind is nice.

2. What do think each coin would grade? The pictures may not be the greatest. I just took a couple quick shots and can take them out and try to get better images if needed. I also understand that there are a couple larger uhhhh gashes?

3. Thoughts on sending them in to PCGS/NGC? You already know I have to ask that even though I probably won't, it just seems like the thing to do these days.

Thanks everyone!!

 

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I only see one picture.

 

Sorry! Was still figuring out how to post things correctly and get them all uploaded!

You're quick! haha

 

Both would probably grade EF-40 or thereabouts. The VDB cent appears to have a lamination on the obverse near the center.

Are you planning on selling? If so, the VDB should be slabbed. Most people hesitate to buy them raw due to the huge number of fakes.

 

Awesome! I was thinking somewhere around 30-40 for the VDB and then maybe 25-30 for the S.

I'm not planning on selling anytime soon at least. Do you think it's authentic? I believe I got it from a reliable source a few years back but you never really know anymore.

Also what do you mean by a lamination?

 

I want to review the photos before making a comment.

 

A lamination is a planchet defect caused by the cent alloy not being completely mixed together. Looks like Mr. Lincoln has one near his nose.

 

It would be best to get them slabbed whether you want to sell them now or not. Maybe someone else will need to sell them, and they can prove they are authentic. I think they are in the VF range. You can get them certified for around $12 each.

 

Looks like a variety 3 mint. Appears 100% authentic to me. The counterfeiters typically blow it on the "B" initial. An authentic VDB has the middle serif of the "B" angled down. Counterfeit copies usually show a straight bar. I believe you are in possession of the real deal. Congrats! And I do agree with those that suggest having it slabbed. These are often faked and the genuine article has some real intrinsic value associated with it.

 

Im not much of a Lincoln collector but,
It looks closer to obverse #4 than anything.
The MM appears further to the right than #3.
JMHO

 

Agreed and slightly lower. It would be easier to see the Coin out of the plastic flip. The details are quite blurred.

 

SVDB VF-35
09S VF-25

 

I don't know anything about a variety mint or the differences. Is it important at all? I can definitely take some better photos of the date and mint outside of the holder if needed.

 

Thanks! Those were right along the lines I was thinking but I am a bit rusty, especially with Lincoln's.

 

Where?

 

If @BadThad doesn't see anything wrong, that's a big step in the right direction. Having them graded and in a slab would add to their value.

 

I agree the details are blurred but if anything - Obverse 4

 

I was hoping you would pop in with your overlay.

 

A squarer better image of the 1909-S - I can overlay and see if it matches one of the seven obverse I have mapped. That map hasn't really been tested and confirmed though.

 

No... The variety doesn’t change the intrinsic value really. It’s just a good diagnostic to be aware of when authenticating a coin that is often counterfeited.