Sabina Denarius Roma 128-136 AD Tellus eastern mint

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  1. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Reference.
    unpublished
    obverse of Sabina reverse Hadrian
    RIC 390; Rev. RIC 276

    Obv. SABINA AVGVSTA
    Diademed and draped bust right

    Rev. TELLVS STABIL
    Tellus standing left, holding plough-handle and rake, two corn ears behind.

    2.73 gr
    19 mm
    6h
    edit
    Note.
    Ex Gorny & Mosch, Auction 233, lot 2366 2015


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    Last edited: Jun 12, 2018
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Wow, nice find. Never seen the type before.
     
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  4. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    it's quite extraordinary eastern and mule :D
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I like it, and like coins of Sabina in general.
     
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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Jun 11, 2018
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This is the only one I have ever owned ... so far.

    It cost me $89 USD a decade ago. I probably couldn't find one in that price range today, let alone a decent one.

    (Going off to check VCoins to satisfy my curiosity on that., now.)

    (Update - seems it can still be done.)


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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's a really interesting find, @Okidoki ! I've never seen a mule of Sabina before. Do you know anything about its provenance?
     
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  9. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's just a mule. The obverse is oddly engraved with a similar non-standard reverse. The house suggested it may be an unofficial imitation. I think it's an unofficial hybrid and chose to pass, but I'm glad somebody here got it.
     
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  10. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Way to rake in an interesting coin! I like seeing tool on ancient coins.
     
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  11. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    it is eastern mint, and there they mixed two obverse and reverses so mule.
    the BM made it eastern (this coin), both
    a hybrid can not be, that are two sides of different rules, a mule is of same ruler.
    officially easterns can not be mule, so i have it in my easter minted collection of hadrian
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5768
    Mule are here posted
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5997

    Best,

    Eric
     
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  12. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Note.
    Ex Gorny & Mosch, Auction 233, lot 2366 2015
     
  13. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    I'm confused.

    In the Gorny & Mosch lot description from 2015 (sale 233, lot 2366) they call it a hybrid and a contemporary imitation. (RRR! Hybride Prägung! Zeitgenössische Imitation!). In the Roma auction just completed they note, "Contemporary Imitation (?)" Neither of those descriptions mention the British Museum.

    May I ask, where did the BM "make it eastern?" This coin does not appear in their collection online, which only displays one denarius from an eastern mint, out of 70 denarii shown. In that case the hair style is in the early fashion for Sabina, like that of Matidia, and Hadrian is on the obverse. Stylistically this obverse and that reverse are not similar.

    Is there another reference for this coin someplace?
     
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  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    i am in contact with the curator of the BM, who is working on the next update of RIC
     
  15. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    That must be nice. What did he say? How did he explain it?
     
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  16. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

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  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    huh... okidoki's got a direct line to the BM... hey buddie ..^^.. kool koin too.:)
     
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  18. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    I really like the Sabina portrait!
     
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  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I hadn't even considered that there are eastern Sabina coin. Doh. Fantastic.
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice coin @Okidoki ! The Tellus reverse with plow and rake is very nice. I really like that agrarian style.

    I only have one Sabina. I BELIEVE this is a likeness of her, and not Hadrian with a wig! :)

    RI Sabina 117-137 Denarius 3-18g Venus standing right holding an apple RSC73.JPG
    RI Sabina 117-137 Denarius 3-18g Venus standing right holding an apple RSC73
     
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  21. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Once again, I'm not understanding something here. To illustrate another coin from an eastern mint you linked us to a page for a coin in which it states on the page that the mint was Rome.
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    Typological Description
    So what makes it "eastern?" Is it the use of the TELLVS STABIL reverse type?

    Returning to the Sabina: Did your informant at the BM have more to say than "interesting?" It is interesting at a number of levels, but I'm not sure an eastern origin is one of them. Could be, of course, but can't say without a good basis.
     
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