Sellers Remorse

but as I just posted, he is a known seller of fakes...so his reputation is not that great anyway. You can google "hovav2005 fake seller"

 

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We have just learnt that accidents happen. If they happen according to a regular pattern, and frequently, one has to ask questions. And, in the case of auctions, the fault may not always be the bidder's. - eBay doesn't look like it has the best kind of reputation.

 

Look familiar?

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-5440

 

Bingo!

 

Ah, this changes everything. It would seem that the seller had found out it was a fake and did not actually intend to sell it, but it slipped in anyway. But he caught it and nixed the sale. Dubious? Prove it isn't so.

Maybe it wasn't so bad for Ken after all to have it nixed. Or maybe he wanted it for a black museum.

 

What changed? This guy has been a fake seller for a while.

You can make up scenarios, but this person has sold, and continues to sell, fakes. He knows what he is doing.

 

Looks like a great seller to block! Thank you for sharing this info Ken.

 

If the seller intentionally "slips in" fakes, he ought to be banned.

 

It's not ebay's fault, nor is this kind of nonsense exclusive to ebay. In the past few decades basic honesty has declined severely in all walks. And in this century cheating, lying and obfuscating have become so popular that it is practically the norm... grumble, grumble, grumble

 

I hate being the old codger who always complains about the current generation, but I agree. Things have changed over my lifetime, and not always for the better. Whatever happened to the days when a person's word was their bond!

 

Its true. Just had a repairman in the house a few minutes ago to fix my dryer (only 3 years old). It was creepy and uncomfortable, he spent two hours just staring at it (so creepy I wished I had taken video of the whole thing). At the end he declared it would cost me $1,500 to repair the dryer I paid $750 for. And I had to pay him $99.95 for the privilege.

 

Keeping your word is an alien concept today, i hate it.

 

Accidents happen. Professionals deal with careless accidents professionally. I really hope I never see a coin I want being sold by someone whose answer to people objecting to being cheated (and that is what you are doing!) is to blacklist them for calling you on your cheating. Do me a favor and blacklist me now before it comes up.

 

me too

 

Ive had to replace the pump twice on a 3 year old washing machine. Nothing lasts anymore.

 

This has only happened to me once on eBay for a token I really wanted. Not a lot of interest in it so I won it for opening and the seller refunded my money saying that it was listed on accident. I was very disappointed.

 

This is the same seller I purchased this coin from...

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/uh-oh-looks-like-a-fake.316990/#post-3089596

When I contacted the seller and told him I wanted to return the coin, I told him all the reasons why it was a fake as listed in the thread above. He was apologetic, refunded my money, and told me to keep the coin. I offered to pay for the shipping cost for letting me keep the coin (I'd pay a couple bucks for a black cabinet piece) and he declined. He mentioned that he discovered that he had purchased some other fake coins and had destroyed them. I even invited him to come by cointalk and post coins that he was uncertain about. Maybe he just discovered the coin in this thread is a fake? The way he responded to some of my messages made me think that perhaps English is a second language for him, and he isn't sure how to articulate some things exactly (when he mentions the OP is a "study" coin for example?).

Without going into the details of the conversations I had with him, I got the impression that he was an older guy that was just selling a bunch of stuff without really knowing what it is. I did check forums fake seller list and didn't see him, but he was added to the other list recently (March this year), even though he has been selling on ebay for quite some time. I think he may be a modern coin collector that just jumped into to selling ancients coins on ebay and doesn't really know anything about the coins he is selling other than what someone put on the flip insert from whoever he got them from.

 

You can check his feedback and see that he only started selling ancients about 6 months ago. He has also bought coins from many sellers on eBay including quite a few purchases from fake sellers know_uz_ark and auth_numis_antiq. Plus, as I already stated, one of the two sellers he follows is a fake seller -- david.cardiff*

What are the odds of someone just randomly buying and then reselling this many fakes without having any idea what is going on...especially, as at least you, and probably many others, have told him about his fake coins.

This guy has more than earned his title as a fake seller.

edit- I just noticed he also has a lot of purchases from a fake seller that is no longer on eBay- amorcoins713

 

Oh yeah, I totally agree. He currently has a "tourist" fake for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SICILY-SYR...230234?hash=item33ec16825a:g:TSYAAOSwCfRbFJcD

Even if the seller is't doing it intentionally, they really don't care enough to figure out what they are selling, and that earns them that title for sure in my book.

 

The guy backed out of selling Ken a fake. I would expect that knowledge makes Ken a little happier about not getting the coin. If so, that is a real change from where this thread started.

I am not going to pretend to know what it all means that this seller took this action, nor does it inspire me to confidence about the rest of his stock. I cannot sort out all the options about his selling practice, and apart from skepticism I don't think the rest of you can either. But in this case, he spared Ken from becoming a victim. Small potatoes perhaps, but give credit where it is due.

It is enough that he is known as a seller of fakes, wittingly or not, and that puts me on alert. Now, suppose he starts labeling them as fakes for sale, the way Frank does. What do we say then?