If a real 1964 Peace Dollar were to surface how would we know it was the real deal?

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  1. Walter1969

    Walter1969 New Member

    What if a real 1964 Peace dollar were to surface, how would we know it's the real deal?
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Probably post a photo here and let the experts decide plus probably invite Fred Weinberg & Insider to join in on the conversation.
     
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  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Easy! The Feds would show up at your door ;-)
     
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  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Same thing as if the Loch Ness Monster would surface.
    Although there is a rumor that the director of the Denver mint at that time kept one,
    and possibly passed it on to (her?) heirs.
    Also a rumor that the same mint director gave one to LBJ and it's hidden in his library somewhere.
     
  6. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    John Dannreuther has photos of an original 1964 Peace Dollar master hub.
    Those photos have never been released (no photos of any 1964 Peace Dollars or associated tooling have ever been published).

    So if a supposed genuine 1964 Peace Dollar were to turn up, JD could compare the coin's details (such as the style and placement of the "64") with his photos of the master hub.
     
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Once authenticated, this illegal coin is subject to confiscation.
    So it's a Catch-22.
     
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  8. Mike2

    Mike2 New Member

    Did you know that the U.S. Mint experimented with 40% silver peace dollars in 1966 and experimented with copper nickel clad peace dollars in 1969 and 1970.
     
  9. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    I was aware of the 1970 trials. In fact, I'm planning a "1970" over-strike for 2020.
    I'm not as familiar with any 1966 trials. I haven't dug up much information in the little bit of searching I did on those.
     
  10. Mike2

    Mike2 New Member

    I have friends that had family members working for the U.S. Mint during that period and they said some 40% silver peace dollars were made but were destroyed by the end of 1966.
     
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  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Which Mint were they working at ?
    The 1964 Peace dollars were actually struck at the Denver Mint in May of 1965. Do any of your friends' family members remember that ?
     
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  12. Mike2

    Mike2 New Member

    They worked at the Denver Mint from 1962-1971, they knew about the back dated 1964 Peace Dollars in 1965 and also they knew about 1964 dimes and quarters being struck in 1965 and early 1966.
     
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  13. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    There was a story going around that the Denver Mint workers were allowed to buy one or two 1964 dollars at the end of their shift on their way out the day they were struck. The next day they were told to bring them back but a couple had already been spent.

    I believe that story is exaggerated and actually involves the new 1964-D Kennedy half dollars, not Peace dollars.

    Anyway, do your friends' family members have anything to say about that ?
     
  14. Mike2

    Mike2 New Member

    They say that in a short period in 1966 that some Peace dollars were made with the 40% silver alloy but were destroyed and the records of them existing were destroyed and the 1966 dies were destroyed also.
     
  15. @dcarr I think that a 1966 40% Peace dollar would be cool. TC
     
  16. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    How would one know it was real?

    Because Bigfoot would be holding it.

    :)
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Pot's legal in Colorado, right? :)
     
  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    They don't call Denver the mile high city for nothing! :jawdrop:
     
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  19. RustyFlathead

    RustyFlathead Member

    Why didn't they just date it 1965 since it was made in May of 1965?
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Because the Coinage Act of 1965 required all 90% silver coins to be struck bearing the date 1964 as part of the date freeze put in place to stop hoarding by those evil coin collectors.
     
  21. RustyFlathead

    RustyFlathead Member

    If Canada did that they would have had new 1964 dated coins all the way up till 1968.
     
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