1943-S Steel 2.9 Copper coated +Zinc steel finish? Experimental Test

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  1. Boxxxy559

    Boxxxy559 Here To Stay N Hear They Say.

    IMG_20180604_154713.jpg IMG_20180604_154657.jpg IMG_20180604_154647.jpg IMG_20180604_154622.jpg IMG_20180604_154547.jpg IMG_20180604_154541.jpg IMG_20180604_154507.jpg IMG_20180604_154452.jpg IMG_20180604_154235.jpg IMG_20180604_153729.jpg IMG_20180604_154713.jpg IMG_20180604_154657.jpg IMG_20180604_154647.jpg IMG_20180604_154622.jpg IMG_20180604_154547.jpg IMG_20180604_154541.jpg IMG_20180604_154507.jpg IMG_20180604_154452.jpg IMG_20180604_154235.jpg IMG_20180604_153729.jpg IMG_20180604_154713.jpg IMG_20180604_153729.jpg IMG_20180604_154235.jpg IMG_20180604_154647.jpg IMG_20180604_154452.jpg IMG_20180604_154235.jpg IMG_20180604_154713.jpg IMG_20180604_154657.jpg IMG_20180604_154507.jpg IMG_20180604_154713.jpg IMG_20180604_154657.jpg IMG_20180604_154647.jpg IMG_20180604_154622.jpg IMG_20180604_154547.jpg IMG_20180604_154541.jpg IMG_20180604_154507.jpg IMG_20180604_154452.jpg IMG_20180604_154235.jpg IMG_20180604_153729.jpg hi guys I ran across something very interesting with my new Loop magnifier. Well I have had these Pennys passed down to me from my grandfather.30+years.So decided to go through my pennies too finally get a up-close look at them and what I seen that I never seen before out of the two 1943 pennies I have. The 1943 no mint mark Thats not posted always seem to be a normal steel Penny and it weighed 2.7 But this one showed here 1943's still weighs 2.9 grams it is Magnetic but not as strong pull as the other still sent I have. Well what appears to be Zinc still coating finish is wearing off and underneath that is showing a luster copper finish!Then under the copper it seems to be still again I'm not sure but steel underneath it??? I seen on a form that someone posted asking about this coin he didn't have it his self but he knew somebody well it turns out the question he is asking is the saying that I am but I have the example and that is could they have made a still that got copper coated and then again zinc still coated on top of that as a final finish? I have to go back to the posting to find out where the U.S. Mint had sent these five experimental cents or find the description to compare with what I'm finding on my coin.
     
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  3. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    It’s rust. The zinc wore off exposing the steel then it rusted.
     
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  4. Boxxxy559

    Boxxxy559 Here To Stay N Hear They Say.

    I appreciate your suggestion but it's not rest some of this that's being shown is because it came off with my finger exposing it it hasn't seen no water or humidity whether. It has a nice shine to it. You can see it in person underneath the zinc coating by rubbing your finger on it it starts to get redder underneath the coating.?
     
  5. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    Rust (know as iron oxide) occurres when iron (an ingredient in steel) comes in contact with oxygen, which makes up about 20% of the air we breathe. So unless the coin has been hanging out in space for the last 70+ years, it could have rusted.
     
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  6. Boxxxy559

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    So you're saying it's possible to have a steel penny what they whole coat of rust on it and then zinc steel plating on top of the rest cuz that's the only way it would have happened these coins have been cats in my possession I know where they've been. So I'm Pawn what I'd said that's impossible theoretically because the mint wouldn't allow that. So with that being said this plating that I can rub off slowly to show this rust color is because why now?
     
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  8. paddyman98

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    Not enough pictures! :pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics::pics: Need MORE!
     
  9. Sullysullinburg

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    I don’t want to make fun of you for poor English skills, because mine are pretty poor too, but I really have no clue what you are trying to say.
     
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  12. Boxxxy559

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    This picture right here shows exactly what I was talking about I made these layers show by rubbing the penny with my finger it went from the gray color to what I'm calling copper and then once I rub past that it seems to go back to a shiny Steel or silver color so I don't know how R Us could be in there between those two layers that long. On top of what a nice finish it had I just don't see how that's possible.?
     

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  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    We need a lot more images. let's see the reverse and images of both sides that show the whole coin.
     
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  15. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    what?
     
  16. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    Listen dude, if you think it’s an error, send it in. You have a rusted steel cent.
     
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  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes! More images.. I see nothing :wacky:
     
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  18. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Steel cents are known for corroding, and many do so in different ways (flaking, peeling, pitting, rusting), illustrating different colors and shades of color, like grey, blue, black, and reddish-brown when they start to rust. Also, some stick to a magnet with greater force than others. Copper coins do corrode as well, but not in the manner that your coin has. It is also the proper weight for a steel cent even at 2.9 as it is within the tolerance level.

    I totally understand that this has been in your family for a long time, and that there has been an oral history passed down about the mystique of what appears to be something unique and potentially exciting. It is human nature to not want to be let down, and to discover that something which fascinated your family for a couple generations really isn't valuable can be hard to accept; it can also be embarrassing.

    However, your coin featured above is absolutely, 100%, without a shred of doubt, not a copper-based 1943 cent nor an experimental one of different metallic origins. And it is even less likely (and more absurd) that it was a copper cent which someone - for some reason - would then go and plate with a magnetic metal.

    It is a normal steel cent and nothing more. I am sorry to have to disappoint you and let you down, my friend. But it is not a unique piece here.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2018
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    [​IMG]
    1. zinc
    2. rust
    3. steel
     
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  20. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    ...and there you have it...
     
  21. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I helped authenticate TWO
    1943 Copper Cents last year.

    (both sold in two diff. Heritage Auctions).

    Your coin is NOT a 1943 Copper
    Cent. It is what everyone else
    has posted about it above.
     
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