Is this criminal?

Nope. Over the counter pain killers are not the same as what gets prescribed generally.

Maybe yours does, mine doesn't nor would I ever return to one that does.

The shady ones do. The good ones don't.

No it's not. A professional is a professional and guess what there are coin dealers in jail for acting in the manner some of you are arguing is okay

As I have stated several times, profit does not make one guilty of anything. If some of you can't figure out the difference between making a profit and flat out lying to people/ripping then off than that is on you.

 

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Then there's your answer regarding those professional using their superior knowledge....they DO.

So you're saying Nike selling shoes for $250.00 when it probably cost them $20.00 to make a pair is "just making profit"...that's not ripping people off...is that right?

 

You need to find better ones if that keeps happening to you.

That's their market price that people are willing to pay.

If you can't see the difference in that and some dealer telling someone their coins aren't worth anything or offering double face for gold coins than I can't help you understand.

 

Guess how eBay dealers acts. Do they stop the bidding when it reaches what the actual value of the item is reached? Do they give the difference back to the winning bid because it was way over the value of the coin? Answer that.

 

I have absolutely no idea what point you are even attempting to make at this point

 

Not sure why some people are apparently getting so worked up over the idea that dealers shouldn't be allowed to lie to people or completely low ball them after telling a bunch of half truths and lies

 

The funny thing is, it's happening to you...you just don't know it lol.

Shouldn't they be professional and let the bidder know they've bid over the actual value of the item...because, well, they should be professional. I get it, you don't have a good response to it....it's not the first time lol.

 

No it's not, I use good people and don't agree to the extra stuff.

So you're just trying to start a fight to start a fight. Got it

 

Should that be the standard, yes, theoretically.... Will that ever happen, not anytime soon. That's just business.

 

Because it's so hard for you to understand that they are not lying or low balling them. Dealers put the price on the item, it's the customers choice to buy it...no one is forcing them to buy the coin. It's quite simple really.

How do you know what you agreed on is not "extra stuff" ? Unless you have superior knowledge on every profession you mentioned.

I thought we were having a discussion, when did it became a fight?

 

That is not and never was what was being discussed. When you can figure out the difference between a dealer pricing something where they can make money and completely ripping someone off with a low ball and lies let me know

 

You were arguing that coin dealers should be professional and should not make anything more than ... than...what actually. Where do you draw the line between pricing to make money vs. "ripping" someone off?

 

When you can figure out the difference between a dealer pricing something where they can make money and completely ripping someone off with a low ball and lies let me know.

 

And bonus points for figuring out the difference between "a dealer pricing something" and listing something in an open auction, maybe?

 

I think I got my answer.

 

Lol seriously. It really seems like some people are just trying to start fights tonight

 

Not sure why some people are apparently getting so worked up over the idea that private citizens "shouldn't be allowed to lie to dealers or completely low ball them after telling a bunch of half truths and lies", either. Either way one party is taking advantage of the other party by using knowledge that he spent time/money acquiring.

Cherry picking is cherry picking. If it is ok for you to cherry pick a dealer then it is perfectly ok for him to pick you.

 

Well the next time you get an unnecessary surgery because a doctor used his knowledge to take advantage of you just remember that it's okay.

 

This thread is one of the best ever. Anyone who thinks you don't need TPGs just read half these responses and see how "honest" the people you think are honest are

 

It is no more ethical (or unethical) for me to take advantage of an unknowing dealer by buying an R-7 Overton die marriage (coins which run from high 5 to mid 6 figures even in XF) for the price of an R-1 Overton of the same date as it would be for him to knowingly offer the price of a common die marriage to me if I were to unknowingly offer to sell him an R-7.

This thread was originally about cherry picking. Cherrying a less common variety of a particular coin for the price of the common variety has absolutely nothing to do with a doctor (or a coin dealer, for that matter) committing fraud. I never stated that taking advantage of someone else's lack of knowledge was ok. (Admittedly, I also never stated that it wasn't.) I only stated that it works both directions.