Toned Coins

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  1. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I'm starting to have a strong favor and likness for toned coins, but can anyone tell me, if I have a coin that is in a package and that coin has toned how long will it tone? Will it be a constant or start or stop per say. Anything you can say about toned coins will definitly be of help.
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It is my understanding, and always has been, and has been my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, that toning only accelerates once it had become obvious, particularly in coins containing copper, which almost all do. Incidentally, this is why I refuse to pay for color - it changes.
     
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  4. Randy Abercrombie

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    He is absolutely correct. I own an MS65 Type One Standing Liberty. It had some dark toning around the edge years ago that has significantly increased the last couple of years...... The coin that haunts my dreams is the most gorgeous rainbow toned star proof seated liberty dime. The dealer wants a hefty premium because it is so striking. I have almost bought that dime twice. And I’ll tell you.... It’s not cheap. But simply knowing the toning that is beautiful now will change and possibly become not beautiful in time is the only reason I have backed off that purchase. Lordy I want that coin.
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    People can spend over $500 on eBay for a $10 retail clad quarter if they want to. “You cain’t fix stoopid”.
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Toning is just tarnish. That being said, some is very attractive to many people. Once a coin is struck, the toning starts. It takes it awhile to become visible, but it really never stops. We can slow it down to the point where it seems to be stopped, but given enough time it progresses. Keeping the coin dry, away from sunlight and air and all other substances that cause toning will extend the lifetime beyond our own. If you have toners, keep them in capsules pr flips and in a nice environment.
     
  7. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    About 2x2s, how often should I remove the coin from the flip and place it in a new one, every 6 months, 2 years?
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    AFAIK, if it is a polyester flip, it should be good until the flip starts to disintigrate which would be signified by it becoming brittle or discolored. Let's see what others say.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Anything you want to keep as much is stasis as is possible needs a capsule, IMHO. One with an anti-toning agent ring, if possible. Like that Intercept Shield material.
     
  10. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    AFAIK???
     
  11. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    as far as i know
     
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Keeping and preserving coins free from the ravages of time and the environment is a subject that comes up often here. Water, air and sulfur containing materials are your worst enemies. Living in a climate like New York City is challenging for coins what with the pollutants in the air and the changing weather conditions. Arizona is much kinder for coins. Many companies have lines of products they make and market for holding off decomposition.
     
  13. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I appreciate what everyone is saying but what can you guys say about collecting toned coins?
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I have only a handful of toners. I don’t generally collect them because it’s difficult for me to figure out what a decent price is. For my money, a great deal of extreme overpaying goes on.
     
  15. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I like toned coins. The darker the better. But then again, us ancients folks like a lot of things that would freak out most slab happy modern collectors.

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    Heck, this last one still has a lot of the original dirt still clinging to it from where it was burried 2,200 years ago...in the modern coins community that would be a big no no and people would run away from it due to the "environmental damage". But for us ancients folks its just another regular coin.

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    Heck, if you don't like the way your modern coin is toning, get one that's been expertly dipped. You know those shinny Morgan dollars have been expertly dipped some point in the past. Silver doesn't naturally stay shinny 150+ years without the slightest bit of toning. There are people here who know how to do it in such a way it will still pass inspection by PCGS and NGC, so there will always be super shinny 150+ year old silver coins available in slabs.
     
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  16. Randy Abercrombie

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    I have posted this before. I am posting it again to illustrate an answer to your question...... Collecting toned coins is like collecting anything else. If that is your passion, man go for it. Thing is, this seems to be an area where the pricing tools we have at our disposal tend to get pretty unclear. So, the end result truly is a toned coins value is simply "what another will pay for it"..... A fellow could easily make a terrible and costly mistake with the toners.

    Here's my example. I want this dime so badly I can taste it. I have wanted it almost two years. All the pricing tools at my disposal tell me a high end value for this one should be maybe $2500.00. And recent trends are softening. However the striking eye appeal of this coin has demanded a much higher premium. Is that premium worth paying to me? Well, some days I have come close. I will say the dealer has had this almost two years that I know of and apparently, the premium hasn't been equitable to any other collectors either. Tells me that if I purchase this in a moment of weakness that I may take quite the bath if I need to liquidate the coin.

    A fellow go go in deep easily with toned coins. Just be cautious if that is the direction you want to go.

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