beware: planman2014 here, planonit (Hunter Smith) ATS

"Dare"?? Surely you jest...

Call me crazy, but I'd say such a warning is perfectly warranted.

 

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Perhaps if you had clarified as to exactly which question was being asked...

If the preponderance of evidence suggested it warranted, and the health/reputation of the forum would benefit from doing so, I can only hope you would.

 

One person? No. Multiple people on multiple sites? Absolutely.

 

There's no beating around the bush here, Doug. One cannot ask a more complex question and demand a simple yes or no answer. It's a fine tactic when wishing to corner one's opponent in a debate, but simply doesn't work in what should be an honest and respectful informal discussion of differing views/opinions.

If one person, particularly if not a regular member said I burned them, no... banning most certainly isn't warranted. If three or four (even two) I would hope you would keep an eye on me. Once inching up towards or crossing double digits, and when there's outside information corroborating it, I would hope you'd place the health/reputation of the forum first, so in this case, yes... I would. Sure, it could be argued that folks could gang up in order to remove folks they just happen to dislike, but it's still hard to see how the greater good wouldn't prevail in the long run.

We could also take into consideration who the person has shown themselves to be. I don't believe we've ever spoken personally, nor, and to be honest, do I respect you because of your position here. However, I have come to respect you and solely due to who you've shown yourself to be. If reversed, I would also hope you'd take into consideration whatever your personal feelings are regarding my character.

And to be fair, I'll also use myself as an example. I've sold twice using the BST, once to BNB using an alt and the other to a young fellow wanting to become a dealer. In the latter instance, I shorted him a junk ASE accidentally sent to a buddy of mine willing to take leftovers off my hands. Once returned to me, it was sent to said young fellow along with a Panda, a burnished ASE in OGP, a 1913-P 25C in conservative F+, and an 1864-P 50C in survivor VG among other widgets as an apology. I messed up and made it more than right; could planman not have done the same, even without extras? Yes, he could have. The greater point is that it matters not what anyone else may have thought, or even what said fellow may have thought. I leaned many years ago that what we think of ourselves is what matters most, and is especially true when no one else is watching. Every one of us has wronged someone else at one time or another, intentionally and/or accidentally, but how we handled it is what counts. If planman was innocent and actually cared, he would be trying to make right his wrongs, or at least be here to defend himself. Wouldn't you?

 

Great! Glad to hear it. Maybe he is indeed..... or maybe it's a token gesture intended to hopefully cover his behind.

Now, how about the rest?

 

Um, point of order: would this really have been aired in a 1950s TV broadcast?

 

I'm sure you were allowed to stay up later than I was.

 

You were lucky to get TV. Nearest transmitter was near the ground 70 miles away. Saw a lot of ghostly shows though.

 

I read the rules and thought about it. My Catholic friend has a no profanity in his household rule, I respectfully try and abide. Bible terms of hell and damnation aren't considered profanity. Nouns vs verbs and context are factors. I figured at best the Gone With the Wind "I don't give a damn". But it says 1950s tv and I think of Leave it to Beaver with gee willy.

 

The rest of those either lying about poor planman, or those he's victimized.

And even though I didn't think you'd actually do it, kudos on the warnings. Not that most bother to read such things, but you tried and strikes me as a rather reasonable compromise on your part.

 

And it was "gee, Wally"...

If anyone wants to feel ancient, just take a look at the Beav today...

https://www.today.com/popculture/le...unite-60th-anniversary-classic-sitcom-t117965

At least turtle dirt is timeless...

 

I'm sure one or two people don't like me on these sites, but I doubt they would falsely accuse me of scamming them. Things like that can be easily proven/disproved. When multiple people come forward claiming they were scammed (and not any come forward claiming they have had good transactions), common sense says something it up.