Thoughts on cracking out Carson City Morgans

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by larssten, May 8, 2018.

  1. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Hello!

    I have recently acquired four new Carson City dollars for my date and mint-mark collection of Morgan dollars. They are all slabbed and graded in the 63-65 range.

    My collection is stored in Dansco-folders and I love seeing my collection grow by filling the holes one by one. I am also in the long-run for these and not planning on selling them anytime soon - except when upgrading.

    I have bought both raw and slabbed coins and occasionally cracked a slab or two to fill the album with high grade items. I crack them carefully and use gloves when handling the MS-items.

    But after purchasing these last four:
    - 1878-CC MS63
    - 1884-CC MS65
    - 1885-CC MS65
    - 1891-CC MS63

    ..I feel like I need to think one extra time before cracking them out due to the relatively higher value of these items compared to my earlier acquisitions.

    My heart says crack'em - but my brain says "re-think it" or "wait". So I have made a little list of pro's and con's regarding cracking them out.

    Pro's:
    - Keeps the collection organized in one place
    - Love seeing the collection grow one-by-one when stored in the same place
    - I can always re-slab later if planning on selling or for storage in new format
    - Not a big fan of slabs as storage in general and like to handle my coins raw (although I appreciate purchasing them in slabs to ensure authenticity/grade).
    - Dansco-storage might cause unwanted toning

    Con's:
    - I could hurt or damage the coin during cracking
    - I could hurt or damage the coin during storage in Dansco (wanting to take them out and "play" with them).
    - Re-slabbing might yield a lower grade
    - Harder to sell at good price if raw (if deciding to sell before re-slabbing).


    In my situation - what would you have done? Or have you been having the same dilemma yourself? :)

    Thanks for any comments!

    Lars
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    In my opinion dansco albums are not a good place to store coins. my quarters and Sac dollars and presidential dollars have toned and not in a good way in dansco albums. you might hurt the coins cracking them out. if they are slabbed and graded they will be safer there and you'll have better chance of getting a good price on them when you go to sell them if you choose to do so. Keep them slabbed. high grade CC's wow. I would do everything to protect them by keeping them slabbed.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2018
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I agree with @spirityoda. Dansco and similar albums are fine for circulated coins, but scarcer, high-end, Mint State stuff should stay in the slabs.

    I understand your dilemma in wanting to keep your collection organized in a consistent fashion.

    I would suggest transitioning to Eagle slab pages. Don't waste your money on the Eagle brand binders- just buy the pages and put them inside your own 3-ring binder. I'd suggest something like a Lighthouse Vario G (if you want to spend the money), since it's classy looking and has a slipcase, unlike the Eagle albums. (Make sure you get the 3-ring option if you're buying a Lighthouse album, though, since your 3-ring Eagle pages won't fit a 4-ring album). But you could also use a padded zipper binder or whatever you liked, since the Eagle pages have a standard 3-hole configuration.

    To summarize my comment above, I think the Eagle pages are better, since you don't have to take the whole page out and unsnap it to add or remove a coin, like you do with the Lighthouse pages. But I like the Lighthouse albums better.

    I hear what you're about to ask: "But what about my unslabbed coins?

    You can get slab-style holders for those. They're available in packs of 5, for not too terribly much.

    After the initial outlay for the album, pages, and slab-style holders, you'll have yourself a handsome album that is versatile and will allow you to keep your slabbed coins slabbed but still collect raw coins, too, if you don't transition to all slabs.

    @dwhiz has a set of Peace dollars that consists of both raw and slabbed coins. His post shows a little of what that sort of thing looks like, though he doesn't show them in album pages.
     
  5. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the tip! That could be an option to fulfill my desire of having them all organized in the same way
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Twenty years ago, I was cracking slabs for Danscos. Today I see it as a big mistake. It was a big waste of money.
     
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  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    An empty hole in a coin album makes the ADD portion of my brain explode.... However given the grades you refer to... I absolutely would not remove them from their slabs. There will come a time in your life or your families life that those coins will have to go back to market. It may be difficult to convince a potential buyer that those coins were once professionally graded at the levels you referred to. I would have to plug the holes with lesser quality coins. But that's just me.
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    BTW, I gave links to Wizard Coin Supply just because that's what came up in my Google searches. They're great in my experience, and their prices are competitive, but by all means, shop around and compare.

    Don't crack those slabs! Transition your album instead. In the long run, I think you'll be glad you did.
     
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  9. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    How much do you trust non certified holders like the ones you linked to?
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    "Trust", how? They're fine.
     
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  11. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Another vote against the Dansco. Those CCs are too nice to risk it.

    As for the OCD need to have things organized (yeah, we get that!) Lord M's solution is an excellent one, and one you'll probably be happier with in the long run.
     
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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    An option you could explore would be to have your slabbed coins imaged and then have 1:1 prints made of the coin. You could take the photo and mount the obverse and reverse to some corrugated cardboard, cut it out and place the photos in the slots of your Dansco. You then keep your high value coins safe in the holder and have the hole filled in your album. I realize it's not the same as having the actual coin in the album, but...
     
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  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I rarely buy slabbed coins, but the CC Morgans would be one of the few I buy slabbed. I'd keep them in a slab. Take a picture and put that picture in the Dansco instead to fill the hole.
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Don’t crack out your CC Morgans. Your reasons not to do so carry the argument, IMHO.
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Slabs stink. Only cuz i aints gots nun
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    As it happens, my own Morgan dollars are in a Dansco album.

    But mine is a casual circulated collection in modest grade, and I don't have any CC coins in it yet. It's something I'm doing on the cheap, mainly to go after a specific, matched look.

    A Dansco is great for that sort of thing. But higher-end material is better in slabs, in my opinion.
     
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  17. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    nope, I too would not crack them out! If anything buy lower grade circulated ones, but at such high grade, don't crack them
     
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  18. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Crack 'em. Then call me when you want to sell. I love a bargain. :greedy:
     
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  19. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sympathy with the OCD-aspect of this....and good point with selling...my argument against that was that I would be able to re-slab at some point - but if I wait too long until i'm old, decrepit or dead...hehe...my family might start tamper with it...so I might end up keeping them in plastic for now :)
     
  20. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Haha..best and most creative solution to my whole dilemma...Cant believe I havent though of that. I might actually do that. Hopefully I will end up with a Dansco-album full of card-board discs and the safety deposit box full of graded high-grade morgans :)
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That idea dawned on me too, a while back, but does not appeal to me as much as the mixed slab album idea i mentioned earlier. Not least because I'm a marginal coin photographer at best.

    Back when I was doing my Roman emperors portrait collection, I thought about putting photos of the coins of the "impossible" rulers in there.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2018
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