Natural or dipped or... ?

My initial reaction with this was all original and MS as well- there's a slight color change on the high points but I can't tell if it is wear or just a difference in the toning.

How coins with heavy toning that subdues luster are graded is admittedly a mystery to me.

 

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The mod who refuses to "Guess the Grade" based on pics has given a general grade???

 

Could have sworn I read long ago that you refuse to do guess the grades because it's impossible to grade photographs. If I'm wrong I apologize.

 

Natural also.

 

I wasn't sure about the toning, but I thought AU as well. I do see the luster left, but I also see light circulation wear.

 

I’m in the natural and original camp and would grade it au 58. Though I could see it as a 64 too

 

Sounds more like something I’ve said. I hate the gtg since it’s just a guesstimate without it in hand. I’m okay with it when people realize that, but my huge pet peeve is when people try and use them like they’re better than the TPG or evidence the TPG can’t grade

 

This is how I grade as well, you can't "wish" a grade on a coin. This OP coin looks genuine because a lot of us has seen this result before in our own collections, and the remaining "toning" lends itself to conclude that it is authentic. Overall attractiveness suffers, but still a nice coin.

An AU58, maybe add a plus...Spark

 

I got a new loupe yesterday and took a closer look... I'd agree that signs of circulation are definitely present. I have no idea what a TPG would grade it at but it's not one I would submit anyway.

More importantly, I definitely learned more than ten bucks worth of knowledge from the purchase so thank you all for sharing your input and experience!

 

Where was the wear at? It looks alright to me from the pictures, but I've always had a hard time treading that slider/MS line.

 

I saw wear on the hair curl and on the lower jaw near the chin.

 

There ^, the eagle's legs, breast feathers and top of the wings. Hard to see for sure in the pictures with the crusty toning but at 15x in-hand it's more evident.

The fields are notably clean, but I compared it to a 65 and an AU58 quarter I had here and that really helped.

I'd love to see some photos of sliders with wear in MS holders to get a better idea of what the threshold is for modern market grading out of curiosity... sounds like a good idea for a thread though I'd guess there is one already.

 

You never actually crossed my mind on that comment. We know you have your own grading scale that is far off the beaten path, but admittedly I actually was mostly thinking of posters on another forum where what I described does happen from a group of posters.

We are in complete agreement the TPG graders are some of the best on the planet.