1907-S Philippines Peso - PL / DMPL??

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by iPen, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I picked this one up recently. There's a very minor cartwheel luster but the mirroring is very strong. I do see some scratches, but after closer inspection, it appears that many of those marks are die polish/scratch marks. So, I think that it's a DMPL or at least a PL.

    I tried looking up proof-like examples, but none are showing up from what I can tell from NGC and PCGS. It isn't a proof strike since the 1907 proof doesn't have the "S" mint mark. Is this a unique example? Or, does NGC and PCGS not assign PL designations for this series?

    Also, there's a scratch on the left leg - will that cause it to get a Details - Scratched grade?

    Thanks in advance!

    MS-61 PL

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  3. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    By the way, I know that many of the scratches are die polish / scratch marks because the lines are in relief and do not go through the devices. One example is the line through the bottom of the "N". Some other marks abruptly end and appear next to the shoulder.

    So, this is a heavily die polished example, and I'm hoping that it'll come back as a PL / DMPL. Unless someone knows that this series isn't allowed that designation.

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  4. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    I'm not disagreeing with the die polish lines, but I also see micro abrasions consistent with a coin which has cleaned using the baking soda method.
     
  5. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Yeah, there is a lot of noise that looks to be PMD. It's just hard to tell with some of that white stuff. I'm going to leave it in acetone and maybe followed by Xylene to see if it removes any of that white stuff.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Whized do you know the history of these pesos?
    They were dumped packed in wooded crates into the bay to avoid capture by the Japanese. Good read in the red book.... the specimen looks like it was cleaned and polished at a high speed to obtain this sort of luster.
     
  7. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    How did the Acetone dip turn out?
     
  8. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Some of the darker tones came off, but the white / milk spots are still there.
     
  9. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    I thought that would be the case. I have tried to clean many like that with Acetone with no luck.
     
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