1980 Penny

did you did my last post?

 

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I checked my dryer at the door. There is not enough room for the coin to get stuck in the standing position. If it could get stuck, the edge on both sides of the coin would be rounded down. the letters would be smoothed out. Sorry other explanation.

 

I've always doubted both the spoon job and clothes dryer hypotheses because neither the edge nor the coin's surface ever shows percussion marks. Both are quite smooth. Nevertheless, such coins are clearly damaged outside the mint since their appearance violates the finite constraints of the minting process.

 

Thank You Mike for your supporting the hypotheses. Cheryl

 

Both coins were damaged in the same way. The design was pounded into mush and metal was relocated from the edge to the outer perimeter of the coin in the form of a thin apron. The first cent in this thread shows the apron overlying and partly obscuring the peripheral design elements. This is impossible in a genuine error since this area is struck directly by the dies and should strike up clearly.

In general, these coins show the following characteristics that are incompatible with a genuine error:

1. Design elements puffy and expanded.
2. Diameter smaller than normal.
3. Thin apron of metal at the perimeter of the coin.
4. Edge rounded and convex in vertical cross-section.

I have quite a few of these altered coins myself and they appear frequently on ebay. Here's one that's currently available:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-ERROR-1964...goryZ524QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Although this one lacks the apron, it's the same sort of damage.

 

Thank you both, you did not gave up on me. I have posted coins in different coin forum before(not this one) and the first answer I got back is DRYER DAMAGE, That Made me feel 1. they don't know what ????they talking about. 2.Did not want to take the time to find out.
I don't know the spoon job?? but I have played around with the spoon over the heat no way ( burned myself a few times). The coin on Ebay is not my coin, It does look like the coin that was add here.
For a peace of mind < the coin is on the WAY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY, BUREAU OF THE MINT. tHIS IS A UNi QUE COIN I FEEL WE NEED THE ANSWER. I will keep ya'll posted on this.
I feel Like ?????
Cheryl

 

1980.jpg This is not my coin it belongs to helpmeplease
Please, lets clear is up
Cheryl

 

Looking at 1980.jpg it wasn't pounded by hand. might be a punch press, no. The medal needed to be heated up before it can be pressed that good.

 

"Spoon job," "spooning," "a spooned coin," etc., all refer to a method of turning coins into rings. It doesn't involve heat. It's a tapping done to the rim purportedly with a spoon. The spoon is used as a lightweight hammer.

Just a clarification.

 

Thank you for clearing that up

Alright, don't y'all come no closer.
I'm warnin' ya, I got a little knowledge and I ain't afraid to use it.

Like that

 

What? Look, If you think I'm jumping down your throat or something like that, I'm not. My sig line is used to intimate that I'm not an expert. In anything. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." I use that as a mild-humor form of saying I have only a little knowledge. But I'm willing to share what knowledge I have.

Look, this site is about knowledge. There are many websites out there that are centered on personal egos. This ain't one of them. This site is centered on the knowledge. Yeah, everyone has an ego -- all men are created equal, that's self-evident -- but this site isn't about the egos. It's about the knowledge. And we share the knowledge we have.

Peace.

 

I am not yelling at you. I like your humor , It reminds me of what my husband says.
"" I have a lot of knowledge of useless information". Before I joined this site. I read alot of the posting about coins, I knew, I could lean alot. I only started working with the coins in Feb. Or March of this year. we collected for years( old years, large coin, funny looking coin we saved them) They would be in the boxes today if it wasn't for those The Presidential $1 Coins . Now i am looking at all the coins and getting into it.
I like this place. Cheryl

 

My bad. Carry on. Um, nothing to see here, folks. Oops!

 

I don't have an answer for you, only that I've seen this before on other coins with a similar type of damage. As I've indicated, it's not necessary to reconstruct in fine detail how a particular type of damage was inflicted. One merely needs to demonstrate that a coin's appearance is incompatible with what could have conceivably been produced by a coinage press.

 

the possibilities as to what caused the damage to this coin are endless. When you search through a lot of coins you find out that there are very bored people out there that do really weird things to coins. Heck, even I have been bored enough to do an "experiment" on a coin. I can tell you this coin was not one of my experiments, but it was somebody's. Cool find anyway!

 

Tried it. DOes not look like that.