Lincoln Cent on Dime Planchet and on Dime Blank

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  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Yes they called it a blank and it is not it is a planchet
     
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  3. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    But I agree with you about ANACS. I see more mistakes on their labels than anybody else, and they are supposed to be the experts for attributing errors. Plus their slabs are terrible because you can't see the rim, and they are an ugly yellow. And to think someone not only thought up the idea of having a yellow label, but then somebody else actually looked at it and approved it
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Ok.. Let me try to explain something to you. You might be confused...
    There is a Type 1 Blank with no upraised rim
    There is a Type 2 Planchet with upraised rim
    When there is a strike on a Blank it should be called a Struck on Type 1 Blank
    When there is a strike on a Planchet it is called a Struck on Type 2 Planchet

    So when ANACS states it was struck on a Blank that does not mean it was struck on a Type 1 Blank but just stating that it was struck on a Blank Planchet
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here are 2 examples from my collection -
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  6. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I totally get all that. But the problem is that the TPGs apparently need to be aware of it and be more specific with that attribution. It makes it very difficult for buyers and collectors alike. I don't avoid buying slabs from ANACS, but I won't ever send them anything to be slabbed.

    Also, there is even a "Type 2 Blank", where it has been punched out, burnished, and annealed, but there is no rim. I have an Ike Dollar with that attribution. It is odd because it looks very, very proof-like with a mirror finish; even has tumbling marks. Some think it could be some kind of test piece or experimental finish since many from the San Francisco Hoard were, but is not attributed as such. I got this one from Fred.

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  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Love that last Ike!
     
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  8. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    This one is labeled correctly
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    This one is incorrectly attributed as a type 2 blank, and the finish is very, very dark with none of the shiny gold coat at all. I think it was either improperly annealed or it was an experimental rinse or something else but was not attributed. Definitely not a normal finish an on unstruck dollar.
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  9. paddyman98

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    Should say Type 2 Blank Planchet but they ran out of room on the label

    As stated.. ANACS probably did not spell it all out... Should say Type 2 Blank Planchet, because that is exactly what it is

    So you are understanding now?
     
  10. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I actually understood it pretty well before you explained the differences in the last few responses :). Why can't they just make the font a little smaller to fit it on the label (and there was already clearly enough room on my dollar coin to fit it on)? You would think ANACS, who specializes and is known for their attributions of varieties and errors, would be precise about it.
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The only problem with that is there's no such thing as a type II blank or a type I planchet.

    A strike on a blank should be called "struck on a blank", and a strike on a planchet should be called a coin.
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Exactly!
    Its a Type 2 Blank Planchet.. They ran out of room on the label to put Planchet
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    But a "type II blank planchet" should just be called a planchet. If it's "type II" it's a planchet, and blank planchet is redundant. Type II blank planchet is doubly redundant.
     
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  14. paddyman98

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  15. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Actually, it isn't redundant. I know this is very technical and inside baseball stuff, but please allow me to explain.

    A "Type I Blank" is what a blank is the very second it is punched and separates from the metal strip. Once it is then annealed/burnished it is now a "Type II Blank" (without a rim).

    Notice the difference between these two Ike blanks (Type I & II) from my collection.

    Type I Blank
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    Type II Blank
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    Here is a Type I Blank for the Sac/Pres $1
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    And a Type II Blank for a Sac/Pres $1 0428181844_HDR.jpg
     
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  16. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I don't buy that they ran out of room. There are much longer writeups on labels.

    Or better yet, they could abbreviate "T1B" for "Type 1 Blank" and so on.
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

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  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You would need to get in touch with them and notify them of the issue then.
     
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  20. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Dena vu...all over again :banghead:
     
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