1913 5 $ indian

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by spock1k, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    my latest purchase. this one is toughy and a curve ball what do you think this will grade. think before you answer this one is a real curve ball. :D
     

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  3. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I'd take a stab at it but incuse designs give me a hard time with grading...great looking coin though.
     
  4. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    im guessing au-58 or ms-62 becuase i think i see alittle wear and the fields are rough but i dont know how to grade incuse coins at all
     
  5. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    ok one hint for you guys pcgs has already graded it
     
  6. keh

    keh Member

  7. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    The only way I can detect luster breaks on these is to have 'em in hand and rotate 'em under the light.

    I think PCGS called it either an AU58 or MS61.
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    you guys r killing me :D keep it up
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A curve ball ? Or just a mistake by PCGS ? I'd say AU, there is definite wear on the high points.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    here let me add the pic that gives the actual grade
     

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  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    it has visted 3 times for an upgrade and no it didnt make it to 63 i would definitely like to see where u think wear is
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As I said, on the high points. Now all I have to go by are pics, may be different in hand. All I can do is call 'em as I see 'em.
     

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  13. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    The coin looks like it has really nice luster. The high poin rubs are just surface friction and are acceptable for a 62 coin. From the images, I think it is graded accurately.

    If you look at Saints for example, even 64 and 65 coins will have high-point friction.
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i dont have this in hand yet either. i will definitely look at those areas when i get the coin in hand. any other suggestions? thanks.
     
  15. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    wow thats a nice coin, very nice.. good find
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Spock:
    I thought that it was a 63, but then, I concede to Doug.
    (I really don't, but I thought that I'd make him feel good.)
     
  17. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I've found with gold, it's easy to confuse bright spots for wear, in-hand grading is the only accurate way to grade it.

    Ben
     
  18. dctuttle

    dctuttle Member

    Nice Coin!!

    I also have a couple of MS62 Indians that I thought were for sure upgrade candidates, but no luck with either one.

    For some reason the grading services seem to be tough on the gold pieces - possibly because there is usually a big price jump between 62 and 63.

    At any rate, they are still beautiful coins.

    Dan
     
  19. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    ...and no luck with the piece in question on this thread. I don't think it has a shot at 63... way too much stuff in the fields.
     
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