What about security and privacy?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by John Skelton, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yeah? That was kind of my whole point. ;)
     
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  3. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    I worked in a prestigious Washington, D.C. hotel in the 1960s. As with so many hotels of its type, we had complimentary bank-style safe deposit boxes, complete with signature cards and a private room for hotel guests to add or remove their valuables. As we so often had well-known people from all walks of life, a different hotel employee would be assigned the duty of tending to this during each shift. My guess is that this practice continues to this day, but if you're staying at a Motel 6 you are on your own.
     
  4. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Okay, but do the swanky joints leave the light on for you?
     
  5. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Your right, I value coins over relationships
     
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  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Just wait a few years.... ;)
     
  7. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Nah, I'm in High School, sitting in class now, not paying attention. I'm not interested in girls and probably won't be for a loooong time
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You will be and soon enough. Trust me on this one: girls are funny that way.

    I remember the days of not paying attention, and in fact at one time I was the only person in the history of my high school to have ever failed gym. I forget why, but for whatever reason I simply decided I wasn't going to participate that year. Oh, wait.... education is good! Work hard and maybe you too can become a barista someday. ;)
     
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  9. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Facebook is what worries me the most, they're willing to sell out very private details about you to anyone who offers them a nickel. I hope none of you guys are making it easy for your neighborhood methhead to find out using Facebook that you're the one with the valuable coin collection in your home.
     
  10. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    "Assistant Prosecutor Alexis Keller argued that ......., now 59, went to a coin show in Parsippany on May 1, 2016, with a loaded, Walther PPK/S .380-caliber handgun in his pants pocket that he had no license to carry. The gun was not secured in any way, she noted.
    "These charges are alarming to the state, Judge," Keller said. "He had no precautionary measures in place. There could have been much more damage done.""

    Agreed - when the handgun accidentally discharged (it did!), Mr X could have lost a third or more of his three piece (not coin) set :eek:
     
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  11. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I never post anything on Facebook about coins. The coin club I belong to is on Facebook and I worry about guilt by association. I am very hesitant to like or post to that group.
     
  12. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    The jewels would have lost all value (mine never did have value).
     
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  13. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Most clubs have flexibility for venues for their shows and can make ability of dealers to carry handguns a condition for renting. For large shows, ability of dealers to carry handguns is probably way down the list, if on it all, in choosing a venue. For some large shows, the venue is part of their identity ... Long Beach, for example. So, they have no choice but to comply with rules of the venue.

    Cal
     
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  14. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Randy, I'd like to agree with you, but I am taking the cynical approach. There are a percentage of people who are not good, to varying degrees, & I doubt the validity of the statement "people in general are good".

    For example, up until I totally retired 2 yrs ago, I spent the previous 14 yrs in retail with a large international (US) company. Prior to this experience I too felt that people, or most people, in general were "good".

    Our store mostly averaged $8k to $12k in sales daily (annual sales in the $14-15 million range). But thefts (empty packages), damaged goods (parts missing 'cause they only needed a part), & returned damaged goods (abused merchandise returned because "it stopped working, but I don't need a replacement because the job is finished, just want my money back") averaged $1k to $1.5k daily!!

    Then there was the "Returns Desk" which was located & assessable from inside the store. Since there was a "no receipt required" return policy, people could simply pick something off a shelf & "return" it!!! With no receipt, you could only get store credit, but....OK. Or, people could buy an item, take it home and install/use it, then come back to the store with the original receipt, select the item again and take it directly to returns. And if they paid cash, they got cash back. (We would actually watch this on CCTV - someone enter the store empty handed, pick up the item they previously bought, & "return" it.) These thefts are not included in the daily avg. above. These losses were "verified" by video and during inventory. We might have an "acceptable/allowable" inventory shrink of $600k, but actual shrink was 2 1/2 times that!!

    But none of that mattered, because corporate essentially said "we're operating on 80% margins, it doesn't matter (yet)"! In 2002 each store had it's own loss control (read: security), within 5 years they were all gone.

    Yes, some are professional thieves, but there are also too many "good" people who are opportunists. It's not that they exist....it's that they exist in much greater numbers than one realizes. And that they think it's OK to steal from "deep pockets". (I'm still mad that big business encourages this behavior. My former employer is not the only one who conducts business in a way to "encourage" crime.)

    My personal experience leads me to believe that maybe 60% of the population is maybe "100% good" (whatever that means), which leaves 40% in the professional criminal or occasional opportunist category. I just don't think this makes the statement "people in general are good" valid.

    Btw, only about 6 people know of my illness, er, coin collection, and I trust in anonymity of CT to keep it that way.

    I only rant on this because I think there are many out there who are naïve about the subject of honesty.
     
  15. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I agree with u, but good is so broad, stealing an item from a store and multiple accounts of murder may get a different definition of "good" I'm good compared to a killer but I'm bad compared to some very honest kids I know.
     
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  16. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I know you are right. I believe these days that moral character aren't as embraced as ideals much as they were when we were young. and yes, I have had my credit card number pilfered twice in recent years and had a trusted employee steal from me. For the most part I shield myself from that element I suppose. I hope that I go to my grave still looking for the good in folks. I don't think I could tolerate living any other way. Just too disheartening of a thought to me. But yes, you absolutely are correct.
     
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  17. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Ditto! ;)
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    You are still young enough to set your own moral compass..... I can tell you stories about my youth that would make you cringe.... Suffice to say, a judge gave me the opportunity to join the service... Or do some time at the tender age of seventeen. I chose the service at the time thank goodness. That was where I learned a solid foundation of personal sacrifice, honor and character. Had I not gone down that path, I am sure that I would have been on an episode of Live PD rather than running a thriving business today. So set your own path. Don't let others do it for you.
     
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  19. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I appreciate the advice
     
  20. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    The one that gets me is when people post real-time vacation photos of themselves on Facebook, basically saying, "Hey, everybody, I'm in Jamaica right now so that means my house is unoccupied!"
     
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  21. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I never ever did Facebook. I realized very quickly that it was an easy way to open up my life to people and companies that had no business prying into mine. It's nothing more than television Nielsen ratings on steroids.
     
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