Washington Quarter GTG: This will be challenging....

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  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  3. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Gotcha. It is a later die state, there are some funky looking flow lines/texture that developed on this one. I like to get reason's why someone does not like a coin. It alway's helps to get feedback.

    I hold no grudges. I'm not upset, just looking for clarification. :)
     
  4. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I kind of like the look of the '50. It almost gives the entire coin the frosted proof look, which, if my understanding is correct, is how frosted proofs came to be.
     
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  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Nicely said
     
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  6. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    1. NGC 66
    2. NGC 67
    3. NGC 66
    4. PCGS 67
    5. PCGS 65+
    6. NGC 66
    7. NGC 66 +*
    8. NGC 67* cool rim cud @ 7
    9. PCGS MS details ques color - the twist?!
    Edit - just saw they were all straight graded..PCGS 65*
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    1) 66* NGC
    2) 67 NGC RPM
    3) 65* NGC
    4) 67+ PCGS
    5) 65 NGC late die state held it back
    6) 66 NGC
    7) 66* NGC
    8) 65 NGC
    9) 64+ PCGS
     
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  8. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Rim cud? I was thinking it's a strike-through.
     
  9. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    Can I just say 66 +/- 1 down the board? ;)
    I agree. It looks as if there is a red thread still embedded in the coin's surface.
     
  10. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That thread is in fact inside the holder and not embedded in the coin. Somehow I had not noticed it until you guys said something. LOL
     
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  11. jake1932

    jake1932 Active Member

    1 66+ ngc
    2 66* ngc
    3 66* ngc
    4 67 pcgs
    5 66 pcgs
    6 65 ngc
    7 66* ngc
    8 66 ngc
    9 65 pcgs
    I like the 38 the best..... But 1932 to 1940 are all my favorites!.. i'm biased
     
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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'll give this 1 more hour and then I'll post the results..
     
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  13. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    You should have seen these in hand!! They were certainly a challenge to photograph through the plastic. Everyone of them were luster bombs in hand, but some of them had the type of toning that only pops with the right angle of light.
     
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  14. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    This was a fun one. It's a good exercise in how in my opinion market grading is affecting the market. Some of these I believe, had I submitted them, would not come back with the grades they currently have. But that of course is just speculation on my part. Who knows, maybe they would still get the grade. One thing that I can say is that all of these in hand are stunning. Now blowing them up to the size of a small dinner plate, does not help.

    Now for the twist. The twist is that there are 2 twists. The first being they all are graded MS-67 with the exception of one (twist #2). Some had +'s some had ★'s and some had both. There is one CAC thrown in as well. The second twist is one of the coins, #5 was actually mine. I just bought it on Thursday. I wanted to see how it would compare to the rest of these. :)

    So without further ado....

    1.
    1938-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67.jpg

    2.
    1941-S-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67-Plus-Star.jpg
    3.
    1946-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67.jpg
    4. 1948-Washington-Quarter-PCGS-MS-67-Plus.jpg
    5. 1950-Washington-Quarter-DDR-FS-801-PCI-MS-66-Slab-Front.jpg 1950-Washington-Quarter-DDR-FS-801-PCI-MS-66-Slab-Back.jpg
    6. 1953-D-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67.jpg
    7.
    1954-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67-Star.jpg
    8.
    1961-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67-Star.jpg
    9.
    1964-D-Washington-Quarter-PCGS-MS-67-CAC.jpg
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    1950
    DDR-001

    Designation:

    1-R-IV;FS-25-1950-501 (019)

    Description:

    Strong doubled beak East, Left leaves, arrows, and eagle's Right (viewer's Left) wing

    Grade:

    MS66

    Population:

    20

    Markers:

    UVC-0718

    DMR-005

    Stage A:

    EDS (unconfirmed)

    Stage B:

    Die scratch on eagle's Right (viewer's Left) inner wing – MDS

    Obverse is MDS

    Stage C:

    X die scratch on eagle's Right (viewer's Left) inner wing – LMDS

    Light die crack across upper hair – LMDS

    Stage D:

    Light die crack down eagle's Right (viewer's Left) wing – LDS

    Light die crack across bust – LDS

    Stage E:

    Die scratch worn away – VLDS

    Obverse is VLDS

    Reported by:

    Steve Schmidt

    This is from CONECAS Master listings says there is a population of 20, wonder how many are graded?
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My thoughts on the grades when compared to mine:

    1. NGC MS-66+ (NGC MS-67)
    2. NGC MS-64* (NGC MS-67+★)
    3. NGC MS-66+ (NGC MS-67)
    4. PCGS MS-66 (PCGS MS-67+)
    5. NGC MS-67 (PCI MS-66)
    6. NGC MS-66 (NGC MS-67)
    7. NGC MS-65 (NGC MS-67★)
    8. NGC MS-64* (NGC MS-67★)
    9. PCGS MS-65 (PCGS MS-67 CAC)

    1. Half-point difference. Matter of opinion.
    2. I cannot overlook the damage. I was orignally going to put MS-67+* due to the luster and lack of marks on the obverse, but then I saw the reverse. I stand by my grade.
    3. Half-point difference. Matter of opinion.
    4. It was tough to judge hits with the toning, but there seemed to be more abrasions in the prime focal areas on the obverse, particularly when compared to the previous coins. Maybe PCGS has looser standards. Toss-up imo.
    5. I assumed old NGC. I really liked the luster and subtle toning. Not the best strike,but very few hits. Easy 67 imo at PCGS/NGC.
    6. The lack of marks was 67, but the luster from the pictures was 65. Net 66. Since the luster is apparently much better than the pictures were able to show, I will revice to MS-67.
    7. The toning made judging the contact marks really hard. There is a pretty significant scratch behind Washington’s head which should keep it out of 67 territory. The reverse toning has very negative eye appeal. Luster looked neutral from the pictures, so I said MS-65. But since it apparently has great luster, I can see MS-66, but not 67, and certainly not a star.
    8. Again hard to judge contact marks. The strike through (not a scratch, apparently) should limit this to MS-66. While it is a flaw made at the mint, it is still a flaw nonetheless. I can see a star.
    9. Hard to judge contact marks again, but I think everything in front of Washington’s face is an abrasion. That should definitely keep it out of 67 and possibly 66. Color is nice, so I guess 66 is reasonable. This is another example in the batch that shows PCGS is more lenient with top-grade Washington quarters.
     
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