Question about a 1/3 Underweight Slabbed Lincoln Copper Cent

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JCro57, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    This piece looked so bizarre that I was too darn curious not to pick it up at MS64RD. Notice the huge divot where Lincoln's temple is, and how much detail is missing from the reverse.

    Here is my question: I know oftentimes details are missing from grease filled dies or other debris blocking the strike. But is this more likely because the planchet was so thin that the dies could not reach the entire coin? And if that's the case, why were some areas struck very strong and others not? And why the huge divot on the side of Abe's face if this is not PMD? Could this also be a strike through at that spot? (Looks too smooth to be a strike through I think)

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Pics?
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I don't notice anything at all.
     
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  5. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

    I don't notice anything either @rickmp
     
  6. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Maybe that burglar mask on your mood descriptor obscured his vision :) photos now up
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    This is actually the answer to all of your questions!
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It looks like all the metal went to try and fill in Lincoln.
    cool coin either way. I don't see any PMD.
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @JCro57
    Here is a similiar mint error that I own
    Struck on a Split Planchet
    No Strike Throughs present. Just unequal striking pressure on both sides -
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    Compare your Memorial Building to mine
     
  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Gotcha' Mr. spell check...LOL.
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Why they put the I and the O so close together on these keyboards! :punch:
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's not the right way to say it, but you've got the idea. The correct way to phrase it is that the metal in the planchet could not reach the dies because there was not enough metal for it to do so.

    When a coin is designed the specific portions of the planchet where the metal comes from to create a given portion of the design, and the directions in which that metal flows is all predetermined by the design. With a good design there is enough metal to fill everything, assuming of course that the correct pressure is used and that the dies are correctly spaced and aligned. With a poor design, like Jefferson nickels, there is not enough metal no matter if everything else is prefect.

    But when there is not enough metal in the planchet to begin with, as is the case with an underweight planchet, everything else can be perfect and you will still end up an again predetermined result. And if anything else is out of spec, like pressure, spacing, or alignment, a different predetermined result will occur.
     
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  13. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    As always, you are among the best with your explanations as you just know how to always make something complicated seem more understandable.
     
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @JCro57
    But I have the pictures ;)
     
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