What grade would you give this? 1936-S Oregon Commemorative

According to the NGC Census there are the following:

(1) 1937-D graded MS-69
(2) 1938-D graded MS-69 star

So there are a total of 3 graded at MS-69 in the entire Oregon series at NGC.

PCGS has:

(2) 1937-D graded MS-69
(3) 1938-D graded MS-69

A total of 5 coins in the Oregon series graded MS-69 at PCGS.

With a total of 8 across the entire Oregon series at both of the big TPG services. It's funny to note that all of the MS-69's are from the Denver releases of 1937 and 1938.

 

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Right now this is the only high grade Classic Commemorative I own. I do have a circulated 1892 Columbian Half, but for some reason I just don't think of those as a Classic Commemorative. I know they are the first Classic Commemorative. I just see them everywhere from circulated to high end UNC, they made a ton of them. There were 950,000 1892 Columbians struck and 1,550,405 1893 Columbians struck. Compare that to just 5,006 of the 1936-S Oregon that I have above. And a total of 203,102 total struck for the entire Oregon series.

 

I'm changing my guess from 66.

There are 2 insignificant "marks" on the coin. First one on the obverse at about 8 o'clock, just inside the rim - could be a planchet flaw? Second is a small (tiny) hit on the rim on the reverse at 7 o'clock.

Other then those 2, I see nothing. Nada, Zilch, Zip, Zero.

The Indian's right thigh (our left) has full luster as well. This is the high point of the obverse, and I'm not seeing a break in luster anywhere. There is even detail in the Indian's headdress.

It is also incredibly well struck. Look at the pioneer's wife's hair (inside the wagon); there is detail in her hair!!! There also does not appear to be any break in luster on the oxen's rear half, the high point of the reverse.

My new guess is 67+, with a strong chance at 68. If it had strong color, I believe it would be a shoo-in (or is it shoe-in?) for a 68.

As much as the holder is cool, I would without question submit this coin. Seriously. Like, really, seriously.

And then get it CAC'd.

 

My mistake! The Flynn book lists a 1937D in MS69 by NGC. I looked at the wrong line. Sorry!

Chris

 

Oh no worries. I was not trying to be critical of your post, sorry if it came off that way. Your post got me curious as to how many MS-69's there were in the series. One thing the TPG Census does not give us, is when those grades were made. I'm guessing The Flynn book is a bit on the older side. So more than likely it was accurate when it was published.

 

MS-66 nice coin

 

No offense taken! The Flynn book was published in 2008, and I was looking at the Heritage auction prices that Kevin listed for all dates & mintmarks 2002-2008.

Chris

 

Absolutely incredibly awesome. First thought was a 64, and tried to find something wrong but as I looked more and more my jaw was dropping. Right leg high point, no sign of luster break. And, as pointed out great detail. I noticed on the reverse what appears to be "flow lines" between the sun rays, is this normal?

I have one of these, but I don't remember the year, but mine is AU.

Final analysis: MS67+...Spark

 

I first thought 6( but upon further examination I find basically nothing wrong with it. I’m at high end 66 with a shot at 67 and if it was mine it’d be off to pcgs my next submission

 

Nice pickup, MS-67.

 

So after really looking this coin over, I've found a few very light hairlines. There is one small patch near the H in HALF that shows up when the light catches it just right. My guess is that it's these areas that have kept it from going to a TPG. I'm not sure if they are enough to get it a details grade or to simply keep it down to a 65. I do know, that had I not found anything, I would probably send it in. The issues are on the side with the Indian or reverse. The obverse is flawless. I had to find these using a 7x loupe.

 

I can't see the hairlines, but I think I'd still send it in.

 

Great mintage 5,000. I assume the commems have a high survival rate, because they were meant to be collected and saved.
Except for a few that went in the great melt off when silver was super high.
MS-66 maybe better. It looks great.

 

It looks like a bunch of us are in the camp of having you send it in.

Who wants to do a kickstarter to cover the grading expenses and satisfy our collective curiosity?

 

Dude is it know what the highest grade for a 36s is. With only 5000. Think you got a kinda real shot there. The headdress is quite good. First thing i saw. Why not a 68.

 

Sorry i missed your reply coz i went back to look the coin over again

 

If they're honest, MS68. I think it looks real happy where it is, though. I know if I were this coin, I'd be really pissed if you took me out, and I'd never forgive you for it.

 

I'm with Fast Eddie on this one, but is there any way it could be TPG'd without it getting removed from it's current holder?...I ask because I have a 1884 CC Morgan in a Mint GSA Hoard holder and packaging. I think it could be a MS66 but I don't want to have to switch holders either....Spark

 

The holder is cool. I'd leave it in that unless you want to sell it.

 

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