the Egypt and the PTOLEMIES

Good point. It is what I love about America. Sadly, Utah might be the least diverse state we have...though the Ptolemies did Not adopted nor assimilate well. Were Greek and proud.

 

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Well done @ancient coin hunter ! Hats off. I was waiting for someone to post an Achaemeid ruler.

 

Arguably, Those of "Native American" tribes are more native to the USA than those who have migrated there, fairly recently, mostly from Europe. But I expect I am putting the cat amongst the pigeons here !

 

..yesterday i couldn't spell Egyptian, now I are one (jk)

 

the only Ptolemaic coin i have i got when collecting coins of Alexanders generals..

 

https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-nine-languages-that-Cleopatra-spoke

 

I recently purchased this pond-skipper:


PTOLEMAIC KINGS OF EGYPT.
Ptolemy IV Philopater, 222-205/4 BC.
Æ Drachm, 41mm, 66.
Alexandria mint, Series 5.
Obv.: Diademed head of Zeus-Ammon right.
Rev.: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ; Eagle with closed wings standing left on thunderbolt; ΛI between legs.
Reference: Svoronos 1126; Weiser 51 (Ptolemy II)

 

CONTROVERSIAL "1st Egyptian Coin"

Egypt Pharaoh Nektanebo II 361-343 BCE Ram Scales Weiser 1 - Butcher 11 uncertain no Syria

CONTROVERSIAL "Last Egyptian Coin"

Egypt Cleopatra VII Cyprus AE 11 1.8g obol Paphos mint as Isis dbl-corunc SNG Cop 649

I kinda like the "In-Between" Makedonwn that was Pharoah:

Egypt Ptolemy I Soter Tet Obv-Rev Delta bankers marks

 

Here are a few of mine (a couple of which I don't think I've shown yet):

Ptolemy II Philadelphus
31mm, 22.5g
Svoronos 708


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Ptolemy III Euergetes
38mm, 46.5g
Svoronos 974

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Ptolemy VIII Physcon
32mm, 28.46g
Svoronos 1491

 

Massive coin, @Rayban35 ! I have one. Not as large as your coin but quite massive by comparison to the Judaean prutot and Roman denarii which make up most of my collection.

 

Ptolemy XV Caesar, nicknamed Caesarion (little Caesar) (lived June 23, 47 to August, 30 BC; reigned September 2, 44 BC to August, 30 BC) was the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra VII of Egypt and was the last pharaoh of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt. When Cleopatra died he was still Pharaoh and it is thought that he was killed by Octavian. Cleopatra was the actual power behind the throne but Caesarian was a co-ruler. One of their "double eagle" coins is said to denote the co-regency. As to not being Egyptian, Cleopatra was a Ptolemy from the line of Ptolemies in Egypt. The members of this family, although strongly Greek in outlook and lifestyle, had been born and had lived in Egypt since Ptolemy I first came to Egypt before 300BC. 300 years of being born and living in the country makes them, in my opinion, all Egyptians.

 

Interesting! I've never heard Caesarion considered pharaoh. Man, I would love to see this coin you mentioned that shows co-regency. It always bummed me out to think Octavian would have his little cousin killed like that. Times were tough.
Though in regards to the Ptolemies, you may consider them native Egyptians, they did not nor do modern historians.

 

Welcome to the Ancients Forum, @Col Davidson !

 

This is a very impressive set you've assembled!

 

..brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, moms n dads...

 

A coin depicting Cleopatra nursing Caesarian is illustrated as item 3 in the below link and the two eagle coins of Cleo and Caesarian are shown as items 4 and 5.
http://www.ptolemaic.net/NMpdfs/CleopatraCaesarionTwoEagles.pdf

 

TIF......you see how it goes!?!? Now I want one of these!!!

Except for the curved beaks, some of those birds look like Roadrunners.

 

Whoa! Thanks for digging these up and the education! I stand corrected. All hail Caesarian, last pharaoh of Egypt...now where do I get me an item #3??

 

..i know a guy that knows a guy...

 

I don't need the 1st guy, just the 2nd