MD or DDD?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Mr. Waggers, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I posted this picture before, and from the feedback, annotated it was an example of die deterioration. I just want to confirm that what I see below is not machine doubling? Thank you Photo on 4-8-18 at 17.24 #2.jpg
     
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  3. just a penny.. right

    just a penny.. right Active Member

    Some of both perhaps. I have 1 just like it. Fun to look at tho.
     
  4. Mike Drop

    Mike Drop Active Member

    I find the doubling on the 6 interesting looking
     
  5. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I agree. There is also MD on the mintmark and interesting deterioration on the 9's which does not entirely coutour the 9 all around but crossing through it, rising above it, I guess, from underneath.
     
  6. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    Is that a notch at the bottom of the 1?
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Machine doubling and die deterioration are both unimportant types of doubling. So, what is the point?

    Chris
     
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  8. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I am just going over my notes. For instance, I am missing the info for the following errors. Not sure if I annotated MD or DDD next to it. Which is which? Photo on 4-3-18 at 19.15 #2.jpg Photo on 4-5-18 at 08.59 #3.jpg Photo on 4-9-18 at 00.24 #2.jpg [/ATTACH] Photo on 4-5-18 at 03.43.jpg 5a.jpg Photo on 4-8-18 at 17.34 #2.jpg
     
  9. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    All are LMCs-same date as above.
     
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  11. SPC CENTS

    SPC CENTS Hammering slabs

    I think the first image is machine doubling. If it was die deterioration doubling, the deterioration would be going the other way -- towards the rim. A deteriorated die will push the metal outward toward the rim of the coin. Another indication that it is machine doubling is the way it reduces the size of the numerals and mint mark. Do you notice how the 9(s), 6 and S thin out were the doubling occurs? That should tip you off every time.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2018
  12. SPC CENTS

    SPC CENTS Hammering slabs

    Your third, fifth and sixth images are examples of die deterioration doubling. The fifth image shows another indication of die deterioration doubling. You can see flow lines in the field. The metal molecules are flowing outward towards the rim.

    I wouldn't call these errors. They are both normal strikes. In one case, the dies were loose. In the other case the dies are worn from over use.
     
  13. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Md for sure!
     
  14. coinquest1961

    coinquest1961 Well-Known Member

    Classic machine doubling.
     
  15. RickO

    RickO Active Member

    Machine doubling.. no doubt about it.
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    It is my understanding that there is only 1 d/d variety. If you dont have the one in the red book that looks the same. Then it just doesn't cut the mustard. I could be wrong with my assessment. Saw many that are fools gold. Good luck my friend
     
  17. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    We dream!
     
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