Fascinating...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ken Dorney, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I dont own this. It was posted elsewhere by a fellow dealer asking for input. From an Aeternitas reverse of Florian. Anyone ever see anything like it?

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Whoa. Talk about a serious case of "horse face"! Or is it more of a goat?

    It sure looks intentional, doesn't it? [heading off to ACsearch now to see if other goaty Aeternitae can be found]
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Four Florian Aeternitas hits in ACsearch:

    Full goat (same die as above):
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    Halfway there:
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    Sort of normal:
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  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's an aeternitas from wildwinds. I would say the example above could be just an odd engraving on the reverse, though it would be interesting to see if there was an animal head option for the personification. Anubis' head might be a guess, or a goat - if so it could be Khnum, another Egyptian god

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    My searches so far haven't revealed anything conclusive.
     
  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It reminds me of this festival of Isis coin with Anubis on the reverse. Not my coin; I can't remember the source from which I downloaded it, either. My apologies, therefore, for not being able to credit the coin's owner:

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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    @zumbly is the lucky dog who owns that dog-headed coin.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-late-roman-pick-up-4-festival-of-isis.249276/

    A very interesting question. If the resemblance to a goat or horse is intentional, what is the reason for it? Engraver whim or joke? A misunderstanding on the part of the engraver? A reflection of the engraver's personal religious background?
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    C'mon now, we've all known people that look like that. :troll:
     
  9. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Reminded me of this horseman with a lion's face on a much later Afghan bull and horseman Jital:
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Here's another one coming up for auction. Hard to tell in this image but the face doesn't look goaty although it does look somewhat like a stereotypical alien :D

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  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Geez... you guys and gals are all slacking...

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  12. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    yes that's Jar Jar Binks facing left from star wars. lol just kidding. ha ha haaaa...

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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Several more Florian Aeternitas are currently on eBay and Vcoins. None of them have a goat face. Although I didn't looks through every Florian with female deity or personification reverse, none of the other types had a goat face.
     
  14. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Made me think of that stupid movie from the 80s:

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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I just googled "Aeternitas with goat head" and was directed to this post already and Ken's image. Google indexes are fast!
     
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  16. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Interesting coin Ken!
    It looks more like a horse to me. Could it be a horse headress, similar to the goat ones from RR coins? Sometimes the person below the headress looks a bit like a goat. (The following is not mine. It is a Cornuficia 3 from NAC Auct 84.)
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  17. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    In my opinion not unusual, just bad art from long ago. Could be Anubis but I really doubt it. Gravers slip up. I'm just grateful it looks like a horse and not an alien.

    Please no more Tsoukalos. He's just a shill for that charlatan Daniken.
     
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Okay. Is this better?

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    :D
     
  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

  20. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

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