Theodosius II solidus - first coin of 2018

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  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    I know I'm late to the party... I have only just bought my first coin of 2018.. I have been rather poor, with most of my money and time so far taken up with travel in West Africa, and (two weeks ago) Antarctica. And today I was outbid on today's Antinous and Anthemius offered by Roma (what is with the extraordinary hammer prices in the auctions at the moment? Everything is selling for way more than reasonable value!)

    So I have chosen instead to make a modest upgrade to the Theodosius II in my portrait series, by buying "old school" from an actual dealer:
    Theodosius II.jpg
    Obverse: D N THEODOSIVS P F AVG. Diademed, helmeted and cuirassed bust facing slightly right, holding spear and shield decorated with horseman motif.
    Reverse: IMP XXXXII COS XVII P P / COMOB. Constantinopolis seated left on throne, with foot on prow, holding globus cruciger and sceptre; star to left, shield to right.

    RIC X 293. Constantinopolis mint, A.D. 443-450. 4,5 g - 20 mm


    I'm not quite in "Goldfinger" aka @panzerman 's league, being able to splash out on Florian aureii - but I really like this coin, despite some minor flaws that i can live with. I find the 4th-5th century bronze series quite dull, so I'm upgrading to gold where i can.

    Fun fact - he ruled for 48 years and didn't die by being murdered (he fell off a horse)... pretty remarkable for a Roman emperor!

    Show me your Theo II's!
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That is a great looking coin @Greg Heinrich !

    LOL, in fact I am REALLY going to make it look good!

    RI Theodosius II 402-450 CE AE4 11mm Cross in Wreath.jpg
    RI Theodosius II 402-450 CE AE4 11mm Cross in Wreath

    :)
     
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  4. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Haha that does make it look good... But every coin - beautiful or ugly - has a story to tell.

    My bronze Theo - along with anything else I upgrade - will be part of my contribution to this year's Secret Santa.
     
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous coin!
     
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  6. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    A great coin.
     
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  7. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Awesome coin Greg!
     
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  8. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the horse was probably pushed off a cliff.....:smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin:....

    welcome back Greg! (Btw, I have nothing new for the year yet & I've been home all this time :))
     
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  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great coin Greg.
     
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  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coin Greg!
     
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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    That's one heckuva solidus! Somehow the nose and cheek damage is actually quite charming.

    I have a couple of unusual Theo II coins. This first one, AE2 size, was struck for use in Cherson:
    Screen Shot 2018-04-05 at 7.49.53 AM.jpg

    And this one was struck by Johannes in 423-25 (easy to tell from the style):
    Screen Shot 2018-04-05 at 7.50.03 AM.jpg
     
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  12. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    I think I saw yours for sale love the reverse! This is the closest I can come. IMG_4384.JPG IMG_4383.JPG
     
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  13. Agricantus

    Agricantus Allium aflatunense

    Pauca sed bona!

    Wow, you do travel a lot. How many passports do you go through per year? Nice problem to have :)
     
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  14. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Sweet!!

    I found the MM on yours as COMOB a bit curious vs CONOB for Constantinopolis which had me looking for a reference to explain -

    Fred. W. Madden in The Numismatic Chronicle and Journal of the Numismatic Society New Series, Vol. 1 (1861), pp. 175-184 states:

    After the death of Theodosius I., the empire is divided
    between his two sons Arcadius and Honorius, and the
    forms COMOB. for the Western, and CONOB. for the
    Eastern empire, become the adopted exergual mint-marks . . .

    . . . The forms COMOB. and CONOB. continue as the Western
    and Eastern exergual mint-marks, till the time of Zeno and
    Anastasius, after which they are of no use as distinctive mint-marks.


    (Read the Article opens PDF)

    Here's my Tremissis:

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    Theodosius II, AD 402-450
    AV Tremissis, 14.32mm, 1.50g; Constantinople mint , AD 408-419
    Obv: D N THEODO-SIVS P F AVG - Pearl diademed draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVSTORVM - Victory walking right, head left, holding wreath and globus cruciger, star in right field, conob in exergue
    Reference: RIC X 213
     
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  15. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Greg, beautifull piece of gold . Here's a coin from his daddy, Arcadius , who died at the age 31 , Theodosius II was only 7 years old when he succeeded his father in 408 AD
    I think my copper follis coin, looks like fool's gold :)

    Arcadius son.JPG

    Looks like Victoria is doing a juggling act on your tremisses , dadams , me like.
     
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  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..gold eh?!?..and the 1st?..well, when you decide to be a bear, be a grizzly!..
     
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  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Beautiful coin and fun write up! Thanks for sharing both:snaphappy: Fun filled fact: my coin was what tripped the horse causing Theo II to fall to his death:smuggrin: yeah, you can actually see hoof prints all over it. That's why it looks so beat up...I swear its true:angelic: #notdinggerfromuncleanedlot
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    THEODOSIUS II
    402-450 CE Ae. Antioch. Obv: D
    N THEODOSIVS P F AVG.
    Diademed, helmeted and
    cuirassed bust facing slightly
    right, holding spear and shield
    decorated with cross. Rev:
    CONCORDIA AVGG / ANTΓ.
    Constantinopolis seated facing
    on throne, head right, with foot
    set upon prow, holding sceptre
    and crowning Victory on globus.
    From uncleaned lot:p
     
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  18. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    Awesome coin! I wonder if the diadem will ever come back around in men's fashion.
     
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  19. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Gorgeous fair gold!
     
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  20. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Better late than never G.H. When I bought my first gold coin nearly 3 months ago, I said to myself: Welcome to the yellow side.. Charles. Farewell to the dark poor side.
    I do like jokes even alone. Well don't care too much about money, though important it is in our daily lives. And as they say somewhere in Europe: Viel Geld heisst nicht immer viel Gluck ( I have no umlaut on my keyboard ).
    I chose this bronze coin of Theodosius II with the blessed cross on reverse.It was struck in Cyzicus. The gold Ducato had also the face of Jesus on obverse(1400AD)

    Theo II Cross.jpg TheoCyz134r          RIC 10.jpg
     
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  21. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    On average just one passport a year... I have 85 countries to my name now ☺️
     
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