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can anyone give me some information on these two?
@Marshall

 

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The half cent is easy, C-3 an R-1 variety. The extremely wide zero and three in the date identified instantly.

 

I sort of nailed that one myself wasn't sure as copper aren't my strong suit.

 

The Large Cent is a bit fuzzy, but I think I see the fallen berry indicating the S-187. Clearer photos required.

 

Ok thanks will re image and post. How rare is that variety? Thanks for your help

 

That variety is common.

 

I can't let the S-215 go. This is a close-up shot of a S-215 in a later die state which shows the Clashes under the hair ribbon to use to compare to the subject called an S-215.



If anybody can't see what I'm seeing or see's something I'm missing, please speak up.

 

Alright. I have one answer which leads me to another question.

The die crack first described in Noyes State D (S-213) of this reverse can be seen. So that answers the question regarding attribution. It is the S-215.

Now why is the major reverse crack missing and the lower left loop not missing? Perhaps the crack was smoothed? This would explain a lack if chip above 1(00). It might also explain why there are no cracks along the bulge left of the lower curls. But the complete loops is still unique among comps I've looked at which were correctly attributed (I found one misattributed S-214 with complete loops). Most have at least a gap in the lower left loop and most are incomplete at the intersection of the loops like on Reverse B of 1802.

At this point, my working theory is that This Obverse is an early Noyes Die State C paired with Reverse Noyes State F with smoothing to hide the major reverse crack and chips at 1(00) and possibly any cracks along the obverse bulge. Immediately afterward, this reverse die is damaged at the left bottom loop and later the intersection of the loops.

At least I'm not looking for a new or different reverse.

 

Its got that large 0. Hope that helps. Looked it up. Not that knew

 

Damn that condor

 

Im not seeing what your seeing

 

If the "fallen Berry" is actually an illusion from PMD, then it might be S-166 in an early die state with the reverse crack still light and before the E becomes a blob. Also common BTW.

 

The 1800 is S-197 Marshall with corrosion damage. Comparison image courtesy PCGS:

 

I'm missing some S-197 markers, so I'll try to examine the coin when it comes in. But it's certainly a difficult call with corrosion playing it's games. I'll post better photos if I can make them. Other than the area around IBE and 00 on the obverse and the second outer berry and I(C) on the reverse, are there other markers to look for that I can photograph?

It would be a real disappointment if my "NC-3" R6- turns out to be a common S-197 R1. But I'd rather get it right than delude myself with falsehood.

Many Thanks

 

I went back and enlarge the area around the diagnostic spike over I(C) and I think it's legitimately an NC-3 and not corrosion. Here is my enlarged image from the enlarged Heritage images which shows better detail.

ps My rarity was off. This is R5+++ with 31 accounted for in Noyes (the upper limit for R5+) and I'm certain there are a few more which were unaccounted for by him at the time it went to press.

 

I keep trying to stop feeding my addiction and then something like this shows up:



It's worth the effort of attribution.

Well, I see it's been lowered from R4+ to R4.

 

Picked this one up tonight. It might be worth the $10.50 I paid. Photos are the sellers.

 

Here's a new one:

I see it as S-28.

 

Looks like the S-263 in the transition state. Same Reverse die state which ends the S-263 and begins the S-264

 

Looks like it to me too. Really nice hair detail too.