Nevermind I tried to get a answer but too much sarcasm for me

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by roy pho, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    ...and I just re-read your OP - you didn't ask a YES/NO question, so you got the answers you got, and not a YES/NO.
     
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  3. roy pho

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  4. roy pho

    roy pho Member

    Who did I say was wrong? Now your adding words that is not posted. I said that the link was the wrong coin and inpI the link to the coin I was referring to. I have gotten a lot of questions answeran from this site but this is the first time someone has ever put words in my mouth and ra
    [QUOTE="Beefer518, post: 3043114, member: 87737"


    Easily read as a "NO" to your question

    Response #4 (yours)


    Easily read as: "I'm going to ignore response 2 & 3, and argue to the death that my coin is a proof, even though there is no reason there should be, and everyone is pointing to the fact that it is a business strike!"

    Also read as "Waaaaahhhh!!! :arghh::arghh::arghh:"

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    This is a perfect example of why I usually won't respond to these types of "Do I have the jackpot coin?" threads. No matter how much logic, or how many examples, or how much fact is presented to the OP, he/she will not listen, will refuse to learn, and insist that those who have been doing this for decades are wrong and clueless.

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  5. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Ok, I'm in a mood....

    @roy pho - I know about zip about peace dollars. Yes, I have a few, but it's not a series I particularly collect or study. So, before I saw your coin, I had no idea about 1922 proofs. But, I know enough about proofs vs business strikes that when I saw your coin, I was 99.9999999999% sure it was a business strike. But, to be sure, I spent 42 seconds researching 1922 Peace $1 Proofs. Guess what? Yours ain't one. No way, no how. Here's what one looks like (it's an image that tooks me <42 seconds to find on the PCGS CoinFacts website): http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/7383

    Now in the future, you can save all of us some grief if you spend, hf, I dunno, a minute(?), and do a little legwork for yourself. Google really is your friend, I swear!

    You'll also learn a lot more, and, (you'll really like this added bonus), Google and it's results won't make a mockery of your post, and... you can argue with google all day and night, and it won't think ill of you.

    Point I'm trying to make is - educate yourself, and you'll look like coin maven!
     
  6. roy pho

    roy pho Member

    The greif would have been spared had you not even replied. You join a conversation between me and the first responder. Notice the other repliers in between you and the first responder don't keep posting because I didn't disagree with them. Like I said nevermind. Why are you still interested in this tread when the one with the sarcasm is already gone
     
  7. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Words can easily be inferred by 6 posts debating the answers you were given.

    If you would have said something to the effect of -
    "Oh, ok. I wasn't sure, as I'm not familiar with Peace dollars, and I'm just trying to learn. So what about my coin says to you it isn't a proof? To me it looks like it had potential, but looks like I was mistaken, so educate me guys/gals!"

    You would have probably gotten a sarcastic answer or two (hey, it's CoinTalk), but you also would have gotten some responses that would have pointed out reasons why yours isn't a proof. But you chose to go the defensive route, rather then the quest for knowledge route. That is a dangerous, and potentially extraordinarily expensive route to take in numismatics.

    As for putting words in your mouth, I did not. I said your response couls easily be read as.... Clearly a difference then me saying you said something specific.

    So know the ball is in your court for the next coin. Learn from it, or not. Choice is yours.
     
  8. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    yup.... looks like you've made your choice. Best of luck to you!
     
  9. roy pho

    roy pho Member

    But I was responding to one person not all check the reply. I only told one other person it was a low relief not the high relief and then you chimed in taking over for micbran. I would have been cool with the second and third answers. But micbran asked did his sarcasm answer my question and I responded with a no. And then you posted a emoji and chimed in with Mr sarcasm.
     
  10. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Sorry, but this is a public forum thread, not a private conversation. In a Coin Talk topic, basically every member can reply to public posts, not just the people you would like to hear back from. ;) If you disagree with (or dislike) some of the other replies, just try and ignore them. Problem is that, friendly or not, they do answer your question ...

    Christian
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I don't see anything that makes me think the coin is a proof.
     
  12. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Definition of sarcasm: “remarks that mean the opposite of what they say...”
    See https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/sarcasm

    While I like my new nickname, my comments weren't sarcastic at all.
    I primarily asked questions you should have asked yourself... some more research and logical reasoning should have been enough to answer them.
     
  13. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Bad analogy. You should have used tulip bulbs. But then, you would probably argue that the Dutch don't know a tulip bulb from a daffodil bulb.
     
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  14. Welcome to CT! Nice looking well struck business strike Peace dollar. TC
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    This. This right here is the kind of thinking that simply has me tearing hair out by the clump. Really? Seriously?

    "Magical" thinking.
     
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  16. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    If he wants it to be a proof hard enough, maybe it'll turn into a proof...
     
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  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Christian, maybe you can convince Peter that we need a "Take a Number" machine like they use at the Publix Deli!

    "Number 43?"

    Chris:):)
     
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  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I'll add this.
    I love Peace Dollars. I collect them. I never knew there was a Proof version. I've never bothered actually looking. Though I've read a lot (or so I thought) about them and have a good collection.

    A long time ago when I was trying to determine if my 1922s were potentially high relief - because we all want to wish something impossible, I started buying 1921 high relief to compare it to. Nope, not even close when you have them in hand to compare.

    Even a few months ago I asked about one of my self cleaned coins and someone mentioned Medium Relief. Go figure, I gave up hope of ever having that one-in-a-trillion find. Since I buy my Peace Dollars in the market you have to assume they've been looked at a billion times. The only discoveries are going to happen from grandpa's coin box hidden away for decades.

    Learning about the distinct differences in coins requires research, and truthfully to buy them and have them in hand to compare. Pictures don't help much really. With out knowledge a picture only helps to see a coin and not really know it's details even if they are outlined. Have the info, and the coins in hand really help in learning.

    Until then, just be assured the million dollar coins were already found out decades ago.

    Posters (even me) get sarcastic and just tell posters to send their coins in for grading when they just keep ignoring statements to the opposite of what they want to believe.

    And it comes down to that .. one's belief of what they have. One has to understand that one is not the FIRST person to start looking for rare coins. matter of fact, I'm going to assume hundreds if not thousands of collectors looked at that one coin that you have. Of course, unless it was found in grandpas coin box hidden away for decades.
     
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  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    BRILLIANT! What is it that prevents newbs from seeing this fact? Because they're "special"?
     
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  20. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    I think it's just the way most (not all, but most) teens and twentysomethings are. Have you had the misfortune of having to supervise a crew of them? They know everything and us old fogeys don't know squat (im only 39, but i feel like a cranky old bugger whenever I have to deal with these kids).
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm 62, my kid's 22, and he has his head on straight.
     
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