Mislabeled TPG Slab Labels. Keep or Resubmit?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JCro57, Apr 1, 2018.

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If a TPG coin you submitted is returned to you, but the label is actually incorrect, what do you do?

  1. Return it to have the labeling error corrected.

    45.0%
  2. Keep it, because TPG labeling errors on slabs are cool!

    30.0%
  3. Keep the labeling error the way it is, unless it is a valuable and/or key coin.

    35.0%
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  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I wasn't nasty at all in any way with my response. I asked you what you thought it was worth after the fact, and I wanted to illustrate that experts agreed so that you didn't think I was pulling a number out of nowhere. I am not here to impress anyone. I only "brought it up" because you chimed in about the value of it.

    And all I did was simply base it off of sales of relatively similar prices that were at auctions recently to show those experts have a good record at valuing pieces for what auctions go for. It wasn't and isn't a definite or absolute value. How else are you supposed to gage it when giving ball park figures? Expert opinions and recent auctions are worthless?

    I am a friendly, personable, tolerant person. I am not a bomb-thrower, a troll, or someone who instigates trouble. My posts and comments to others reflect that. I ask questions and love reading responses. I enjoy this site and never, ever get nasty when someone proves I am wrong. I love to learn. I know more than the average person in this country about errors because few people collect and even fewer collect errors, but I do not know more than everyone. In fact, most people in this forum know waaaaay more than myself. I learn every day. It does not intimidate me. I am OK being wrong and understanding why I was, and then enjoy educating others about what I learned. But what I don't enjoy are people who are consistently rude and condescending and seem to actually enjoy being so. I have read many of your comments on several other threads; you are the rudest person on here who isn't a one-time poster. You stir up the pot and love to instigate. Several people agree based on their comments to you or about you in many other threads, so please, spare me that it is me who is a troublemaker here.

    I really do believe you are a smart guy, are very knowledgeable, and love this hobby. I even agree with You 100% that there is no guarantee someone would pay $1,000 for it. I bet some wouldn't even pay $10 for it. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

    But I only put that value on it because it is such a rare piece that I wanted to know if I should therefore relabel it. My estimation is based on the best info I found. I am sorry you disagree, and don't care either.
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You just don't get it! You don't even understand what you have written. It is pointless arguing with a brick wall. Goodbye!

    Chris
     
  4. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Dont think he was asking members what it's worth. Was asking if he should have slab info corrected. That was the quesion. Look at the choices at top of op posting
     
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  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I agree. You did your homework and asked a simple and reasonable question. Happy collecting and chose from our thread selections.
     
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  6. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    ...and you misspelled 'they' and 'misspelled' - do you work for NGC? :p
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Oh damn.. So embarrassed.
    Corrected ;)
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Question for you @JCro57 , are you certain the label on the slab is wrong ? I'm asking because maybe the TPG weighed the planchet and found it isn't a plain clad planchet after all, but a silver clad planchet. And if it were, then the date range on the slab would be correct.

    Did you weigh the planchet yourself ?
     
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  9. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Well, I actually thought the same thing, that maybe the dates are correct, but it is actually a silver proof coin and not clad as it states. I was told by the original submitter after I received it and noticed that PCGS simply made a clerical error on the printing end, that the rims definitely prove it is clad, and it matched the clad weight of an Ike dollar. He said the printing error is no big deal, and agreed with me it is cool to have an error label for a very unique error coin.

    But I started thinking...what if something were to ever happen to me? I want my wife to know exactly what I have if she would ever have to sell my collection. For this coin, should I be sure the label is correct? It is rare and expensive, and I don't want someone else to have to figure this out. Questions would have to be answered, just as we are discussing now. So, I thought I would ask experienced people here what they think. Thank you for the comment.
     
  10. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Here are a couple photos. You can see the rim shows the clad copper layer.

    0402181551_HDR.jpg 0402181552_HDR.jpg
     
  11. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I think more important than a precise label is precise instructions as to how to sell various groups of coins in your collection.
     
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  12. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Absolutely! Not too many collect these types. I have instructions in my safe on options, including good contact people like Fred Weinberg and Jon Sullivan, and auction sites like Heritage. Hopefully, they will never sell them as my wife appreciates my hobby and loves that I picked a hobby where there is at least some retained value, unlike going on fishing trips where $1,000 later, you only have a couple photos that are worth zero to anyone else. Excellent point, my friend.
     
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You don't get it either! I was merely giving my opinion regarding the first sentence of his second paragraph.

    If it wasn't intended to be part of the discussion, then it should not have been mentioned.

    Chris
     
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    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    How can it be graded as Proof if it wasn't struck by proof dies and struck at least twice? MS would be ok, but no PR.
     
  16. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Because of the finish on the planchet. I learned proof planchets are actually prepared differently along with the different finish. I asked that same question myself a while ago.
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Even your errors are errors. You must be in your glory when you got those
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Your right
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thinking proof finished material. Kinda polished twice or maybe 1,000 times
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah finn. Thats the answer i was looking for
     
  21. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    But that still doesn't make it PROOF. Maybe a polished planchet, but not proof.
     
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