Standing Liberty Quarter struck on SILVER CENT PLANCHET!?!?!

Not that there was any doubt to begin with, but your edge pictures are further proof that the coin was cut down. A quarter struck on a smaller planchet would not show a squared edge as seen on your coin. The edge would be rounded, not square. There also appears to be file or grind marks on the edge. See how smooth the edge of the cent is that you used for comparison? With the heavy wear on the quarter, the edge should be worn smooth. You can do as you want, but any money spent sending it to a grading service would be wasted.

 

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I know I briefly lost track of Occam's Razor when I started growing my beard out. I'll bet a lot of MLB relief pitchers never even heard of it.

 

Cutler beat me to it. The sharp square edge on the coin condemns it. As he mentioned with all the circulation the coin is obviously had the edge specially the corners where the edge meets the rims would not be that sharp and square. Secondly this would be a smaller diameter planchet being struck by the quarter dies and not being confined by the collar as the metal expanded outward radially the edge would've taken on a rounded appearance, not square.

 

I think it is a poorly conceived and made "magician's coin". PMD, nothing else.

 

I collect off-metal planchets/blanks and wrong planchet errors. I have seen waaaay more loose examples of fakes than genuine ones at coin shows, and I have studied and read several articles from national experts who specialize in these specimens.

Oftentimes, the shapes of genuine pieces are partially contorted (and can even have a box-like corner), they are often not evenly rounded, and sometimes the rim only appears on part of the coin, giving the appearance of both a blank (no rim) and a planchet (a blank coin with a raised rim) on the same specimen. So being a bit "squared" doesn't necessarily disqualify this piece nor does an appearance of an inconsistent rim. Also, the fact it was cut to penny size does not immediately disqualify it, though it is highly unlikely. Stranger things have happened that are even more incredibly bizarre and even unbelievable, like a "mule" with a Sacagawea dollar reverse and a Washington quarter obverse.

However...What does it for me to call this a fake with 100% certainty is the coin's edge. This coin has part of a rim and thus was definitely struck on a planchet, which means it was not punched on a blank. When blanks are struck by the press, they aren't punched all the way through and are still partly stuck to the webbing; they literally rip off, leaving a rough edge. When they go through the upsetting mill, coins are compressed which forms the raised rim to now become a planchet, and this process "smoothes" out the rough edge of coins. The featured quarter has an uneven edge, meaning it was tooled/modified after leaving the Mint. It was likely modified for jewelry because a quarter made into a ring or necklace would be a little too big to wear comfortably.

Most fakes show tool marks and are very sloppy. Most of the ones I see are cents cut down to dime size for 3 main reasons:

(1) Lincoln cents (as well as other denominations) struck on metals intended for foreign countries (yes, the U.S. gov't minted coins here for foreign countries from 1855-1984) are often smaller in size, and can be worth hundreds or even several thousand dollars; some sold for tens of thousands. They are also almost always a noticeably different color. So, one reason is to fake an error for huge profits.

(2) Pennies, like this example below, look pretty darn good to the average eye as a possible U.S. struck foreign blank error or a cent cut by a dime press. It has no visible tool marks. However, the color is kosher with the "look" of a Lincoln cent. So, why would someone do this? Because it was likely used to trick vending machines into thinking it was a dime (the size and weight would be very close).


3. It was modified to be made for jewelry or some other conversation piece.

 

If this was done to use in a vending machine, that person sure did a hell of a lot of work to save 9 cents. Lol

 

Nine cents back the time that was done would be roughly the equivalent of a dollar today. So it's be like asking would you do that much work to make a dollar?

 

The title of the thread is confusing.
There are no silver cent planchets.
Going back to the shaved cent into a dime size and weight.
Someone with a grinder machine could do 100 of these in 10 minutes.
In the old days, there were mechanical devices that accepted dimes, pretty much on size alone. Parking meters, pay phones, jukeboxes, vending machines, soda machines etc.
"How you gonna make some time,
when all you've got is one thin dime.
And one thin dime won't even shine your shoes?"

 

I prefer Hanlon's Razor.

 

Ah, yes, Hanlon's Razor, the explanation for 99.999% of all errors that happen in elections.

 

I use Harry's razors.