1859 Indian Head Penny

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  1. dsmith52

    dsmith52 New Member

    Anyone know what this coin is worth? I've had it in my collection for over 30 years. According to the jacket, it's a "Fine".
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice looking coin. I'm at $25 to $30 retail.
     
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  4. dsmith52

    dsmith52 New Member

    Not a bad investment! Since back in those days, I paid $3.50!
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it is Fine F-12. $25 is about right.
    I think it might be closer to VG-10 and $20.
    But it looks uncleaned, a nice coin. Don't clean it.
     
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  6. dsmith52

    dsmith52 New Member

    I never clean my coins. I only wipe dust and specks off with a soft dry cloth.
     
  7. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    There’s nothing nicer than a moderately circulated 19th century type coin that hasn’t been messed with. It looks great just the way it is. I like it!
     
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  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You don't have to worry about what it's worth because you're going to keep it. It's a Fine example of the first Indian Head Cent. In a year, it's going to be a 160-year-old coin. You try to sell it, I'm going to come looking for you and stop you. I mean it, I'll find you. :)
     
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  9. dsmith52

    dsmith52 New Member

    Thanks for your kind words! It blew me away when I read "160 years old"! It's probably my oldest American coin. (I have older Canadian/Upper Canada coins). Don't worry, it's staying right where it is!
     
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  10. man2004

    man2004 Active Member

    That's a very original looking coin. Some collectors are predicting that early Indian heads are on the rise. And, I'd rather have your VG8 1859 penny than a $20 bill any day!
     
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  11. dsmith52

    dsmith52 New Member

    So I went to NGCCOIN.COM and looked up 1859 and there are two Design varieties listed for this coin, one is MS, and the other one is MSPL. If mine is a VG8, then according to this website, it's worth between $18 and $25, but it's listed under the MS column. I certainly don't think this is an MS coin!
     
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  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

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  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I believe MS in this case rather means it’s a business strike, compared to a proof coin (PF) or a proof-like (MSPL) coin.

    Screenshot is from their mobile app - the condition (G,VG,VF...) is on the right. MS is the category:
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    There were 36,399,200 of these coins minted in MS and 800 minted in Proof. "MS" and "Proof" are simply different methods of manufacture, which, of course, impart different looks to the coins. Without going over what those different looks are, "MSPL" stands for "MS-ProofLike," i.e., an MS coin, but looking like a Proof. They're no big deal, really. Generally, they're just the "cleanest" of the MS strikes, i.e., the first strikes on the new MS working dies.
     
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  16. bender9876

    bender9876 Active Member

    Really nice coin
     
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